U.S. Election Day — Obama vs. Romney

**Janszoon** · 11-08-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJunMC

LOL It would be too unfair to Romney though

Does that really matter at this point?

Burning Down · 11-08-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJunMC

I think the system of voting works great IMO

only wack part is the waiting in line to vote... that needs change because waiting in line sucks

You're complaining about having to wait in line at the polls? First world problem. There's so many people on this planet who would give everything to wait in line so they would be able to cast a ballot.

Neapolitan · 11-08-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

What is the relevance of the geographical size of the states? Land areas don't vote, populations do, and states like Montana contain a very, very tiny sliver of the American population.

You could very well say that the election was determine by a tiny sliver of the American population as well, 2.5% of the 57.5% of the eligible voters who came out to vote.

Montana is the 7th least populous state. You can't dismiss land just for the sake of it being land. The land is used for agriculture. "Approximately 66% of the total land [of Montana] are dedicated to farmland or agriculture."* There is a different dynamic in play. Farmers have different needs and are part of the American landscape as well. There has to be a balance between the rural and urban areas because they offer different resources.

*Montana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Originally Posted by swim

So Romney got 5% less popular vote and 33% less electoral votes. Most of the states listed as a problem voted for Romney.

I really think that changing the system ends with a different approach but unlikely a different outcome.

Your figures are higher than what I have seen. Romney had 2.5% less popular votes you claimed is 200% higher that that, and Romney had 23.4% less electorial votes & your figure of 33% is 1.41 times higher.

**Janszoon** · 11-08-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

You could very well say that the election was determine by a tiny sliver of the American population as well, 2.5% of the 57.5% of the eligible voters who came out to vote.

Montana is the 7th least populous state. You can't dismiss land just for the sake of it being land. The land is used for agriculture. "Approximately 66% of the total land [of Montana] are dedicated to farmland or agriculture."* There is a different dynamic in play. Farmers have different needs and are part of the American landscape as well. There has to be a balance between the rural and urban areas because they offer different resources.

*Montana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not saying land isn't useful. I'm just saying it doesn't have voting rights.

JustJunMC · 11-08-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down

You're complaining about having to wait in line at the polls? First world problem. There's so many people on this planet who would give everything to wait in line so they would be able to cast a ballot.

Waiting in line still sucks, lets be real

I think people are more in tuned to want to have opportunity, not in actuality waiting in line to cast a vote, as the democratic system is simply a product of having opportunity

**Janszoon** · 11-10-2012, 02:52 PM

It's official now: Obama also won Florida.

Phantom Limb · 11-10-2012, 03:05 PM

Obama Swept States With The Most Educated Workforces And The Highest Paid Teachers | ThinkProgress

This is pretty interesting.

Burning Down · 11-10-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

Obama Swept States With The Most Educated Workforces And The Highest Paid Teachers | ThinkProgress

This is pretty interesting.

From another website:

Circe · 11-10-2012, 05:45 PM

In all fairness, those stats don't necessarily mean Obama is the "smart" vote (even though I think he is). Some bloke with a Fine Arts degree in New England isn't necessarily more intelligent in the field of politics than a degree-less man in the bible belt.

Freebase Dali · 11-10-2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Circe

In all fairness, those stats don't necessarily mean Obama is the "smart" vote (even though I think he is). Some bloke with a Fine Arts degree in New England isn't necessarily more intelligent in the field of politics than a degree-less man in the bible belt.

I agree.
I realize the compilation of the statistics in their entirety could have had a different intention, but the picture Burning Down posted only includes enough information to infer that educated people vote to the left, and non-educated people vote right. (Even when evaluating that statement on its own, we can pretty much say from experience that it's nowhere near accurate)
Having been around long enough to know, these types of statistics are often presented in such a way to specifically misrepresent data to make an argument that could not be made had all the other factors been included.

There's nothing wrong with simply posting a particular set of statistics, but I think care should be taken as to the argument it's perceived to be making. In context of an entire set of statistics for each state, I think the average person may draw very different conclusions.

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11-10-2012, 05:45 PM	#569 (permalink)
Circe Blunt After Blunt After Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a French-ass restaurant Posts: 337	In all fairness, those stats don't necessarily mean Obama is the "smart" vote (even though I think he is). Some bloke with a Fine Arts degree in New England isn't necessarily more intelligent in the field of politics than a degree-less man in the bible belt.