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Old 11-07-2012, 12:18 PM   #481 (permalink)
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Your math is off by a few decades.

Regardless, yeah, they trot out the few colourful faces in the party, but I doubt it'll be successful. If the Republicans were going to split amongst ideological lines, it would've been in '92 when Buchanan challenged Bush. Notions of white identity will continue to trump ideology in the Republican party as Whites lose their grip on power.

The only Latino group I could see them making further inroads with would be white latinos (not mestizos, blacks, etc.), considering the prevalent racism in latin america.
It wasn't my math it was the rhetoric being spun by the plaudits on fox news. They did in fact claim what I just wrote. Actually Rubio seems like a far better candidate to bring the republican party back into the fold.

That is one thing I never understood the racist ideals of Latinos toward Blacks and vice versa. Albeit it did seem that every race known to man seemed rather happy in the HQ in Chicago last night. Maybe that is more representative of where America as a whole is ready to move.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:28 PM   #482 (permalink)
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whoops. Let me expand on:

If we pretended people voted for reasons other than identity politics,

In other words, most people vote Republican because said party is evolving into an white identity party. The party is already mostly white, so major fissures won't occur.
I know you have a tendency to view everything in terms of race, but that's only part of the equation. The republican party is, as Tore already mentioned, the homophobe party, the xenophobe party, the Christian fundamentalist party, etc. The more they hang onto those ideologies the more irrelevant they are going to become to national politics as the years go by. I assume the people at the top want their party to continue to have power in Washington so they are going to have to cast off the extremists at some point if they want to remain viable.
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That is one thing I never understood the racist ideals of Latinos toward Blacks and vice versa. Albeit it did seem that every race known to man seemed rather happy in the HQ in Chicago last night. Maybe that is more representative of where America as a whole is ready to move.
If you visit most Latin American countries you'll find the status quo is usually like so: Whites, false whites, mestizos/mulattos, blacks and bottom of the pile the indigenous population. There is usually no open hostility amongst these groups, but they all know their order in society, so there are no real issues.

They tend to get a shock when they travel or move abroad and see how the real world is.
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Perhaps the republican party should split into two parties. One for more or less regular people who like right wing politics and another one for sexist, gay-hating, abortion loathing, xenophobic, gun-toting rednecks and fanatical christians.
Isn't that the Tea Party??
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If you visit most Latin American countries you'll find the status quo is usually like so: Whites, false whites, mestizos/mulattos, blacks and bottom of the pile the indigenous population. There is usually no open hostility amongst these groups, but they all know their order in society, so there are no real issues.

They tend to get a shock when they travel or move abroad and see how the real world is.
Latin America is not the real world?
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With thinking like that, no.
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I know you have a tendency to view everything in terms of race, but that's only part of the equation. The republican party is, as Tore already mentioned, the homophobe party, the xenophobe party, the Christian fundamentalist party, etc.
...eh? If it's the party of homophobia & fundamentalism, why do the most homophobic & church-going ethnic groups trend Democrat?
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Because they'd rather support the gay-loving party than the party of racism, duh.
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...eh? If it's the party of homophobia & fundamentalism, why do the most homophobic & church-going ethnic groups trend Democrat?
Perfect example of your obsession with viewing everything in terms of race. Thanks for the laughs.
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If the country was equally and evenly divided and split into two halves between the democratic party and republican party. Who's economy would fail and who's economy would prosper the most?
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