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Scarlett O'Hara 09-11-2012 07:45 AM

It's Not Rape If She Cums
 
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Todd Akin 'legitimate rape' and pregnancy comment controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The point of this thread is what are the Republican's problem with women and reproduction? Why in this day and age do we still have idiots like this on the conservative party?

Another interesting article.

Personally I would not have an abortion but I accept it is a right for a woman to do so if she chooses. Making a woman have a medically unnecessary ultrasound and be made to hear the baby's heartbeat is emotional torture and is not an appropriate way to make a political point.

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Georgia legislators passed HB 954, a "fetal pain bill" criminalizing abortions performed after the 20th week of pregnancy. The bill, which does not contain exemptions for rape or incest, has been referred to as the "women as livestock bill"
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A Kansas bill passed March 2012 requires doctors to warn women seeking abortions that they are linked to breast cancer,[67] a claim that has been refuted by the medical community.

Key 09-11-2012 07:49 AM

Because Mitt Romney.

Gucci Little Piggy 09-11-2012 08:34 AM

Because conservatives.

Conservative people just love to keep things old-fashioned, y'know. Back in the good ol' days when women had just about as much rights as your dog and war was seen as a good thing.

Thus, live by the rule: "If it's conservative, it's bullcrap."

LoathsomePete 09-11-2012 08:42 AM

I would respect the Republican party so much if just someone big from that party were to publicly shame this asshole.

Janszoon 09-11-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1229468)
I would respect the Republican party so much if just someone big from that party were to publicly shame this asshole.

A few people have including, of all people, Karl Rove. But I still don't respect the Republican party.

Holerbot6000 09-11-2012 08:51 AM

It's hard to know what is going on in the minds of these people. They're politicians so one would think they'd have some small modicum of reason and intelligence that would prevent them from saying such STUPID things in public, especially in the Media frenzied world we live in today. Instead, it's like they are lining up to make asses of themselves.

I don't think it's a conservative or liberal thing. I think we have created a societal model where mediocrity thrives, and so we are plagued with leaders who are scared, uninspired or just groveling and insipid. Just because you're good at making money, it doesn't mean you're smart.

I'm a big believer that mankind either needs to evolve or die, but unfortunately, we seem determined to hold ourselves back. We get the leadership we deserve.

Maybe this recent spate of attacks will piss women off so much that the Great Goddess will finally re-emerge. To quote Ivor Cutler: Women of the world, take over. Because if you don't, the world will come to an end, and it won't be long.

LoathsomePete 09-11-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1229471)
A few people have including, of all people, Karl Rove. But I still don't respect the Republican party.

For the people who have, they have my respect, but until M. Money and his bro running partner publicly state that this man has absolutely no right to call himself a Republican, then I can't help but associate that kind of mentality with the party as a whole, even if a majority of the normal republicans would say otherwise.

This pretty much applies to any types of ideology that find extremists in its mists. If you can't publicly disown any other extremists shitheads that crawl into your movement or philosophy, then don't expect me to do the work for you. If you want to call yourself a Christian and not be associated with say... the extreme fringe movements, come together and say that. Same goes for people of the Islamic faith, you don't want to be connected to the jihadists, get together and show the rest of us that the majority of you don't think like this, and then maybe we can get over our own preconceived notions and we can actually move forward as a society, rather than just pigeonhole each other into increasingly narrow guidelines that only further dehumanizes people.

Unrelenting 09-11-2012 09:10 AM

The Republicans have always come off as cartoon bad guys to me. Every time I see **** like this, I am in disbelief that anyone could possibly say/think these things.

blastingas10 09-11-2012 11:33 AM

Is it rape if she cums? A very perplexing question.

Wouldn't the cumming insinuate that she enjoyed it? :laughing:

anticipation 09-11-2012 11:48 AM

I love being a man.

mr dave 09-11-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1229538)
Is it rape if she cums? A very perplexing question.

Wouldn't the cumming insinuate that she enjoyed it? :laughing:

No, not necessarily.

Now on the other hand... is it still rape if she gets on top?

hip hop bunny hop 09-12-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1229449)
The point of this thread is what are the Republican's problem with women and reproduction? Why in this day and age do we still have idiots like this on the conservative party?

Umm, ok, how is opposing abortion not Conservative? Conservatism is reactionary, meaning it seeks to maintain the society's values, and this nation certainly has a long, long history of opposition to abortion being a popular moral sentiment. Then there's the whole cluster**** of where, in the federal constitution, a right to abortion is found.

GuitarBizarre 09-12-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1230074)
Umm, ok, how is opposing abortion not Conservative? Conservatism is reactionary, meaning it seeks to maintain the society's values, and this nation certainly has a long, long history of opposition to abortion being a popular moral sentiment. Then there's the whole cluster**** of where, in the federal constitution, a right to abortion is found.

This is basically rule laywering. The broader description could have been "Why do we still have idiots like this on the planet" and the intended meaning wouldn't have changed one bit.

Read what is said and/or clearly intended instead of bitching about phrasing. The reason it targeted the conservatives was because they're the most vocal supporting group, and idiots like this are less common in other demographics, therefore it would have made little sense to make such a broad statement given the topic at hand is already a specific group of conservatives.

But of course, I'm wasting my time explaining this to you.

Scarlett O'Hara 09-13-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1230077)
This is basically rule laywering. The broader description could have been "Why do we still have idiots like this on the planet" and the intended meaning wouldn't have changed one bit.

Read what is said and/or clearly intended instead of bitching about phrasing. The reason it targeted the conservatives was because they're the most vocal supporting group, and idiots like this are less common in other demographics, therefore it would have made little sense to make such a broad statement given the topic at hand is already a specific group of conservatives.

But of course, I'm wasting my time explaining this to you.

I concur with Guitar Bizzare. Hip hop whatever your name is you're avoiding intelligent discussion by circling around it.

Stephen 09-13-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1230077)
Read what is said and/or clearly intended instead of bitching about phrasing. The reason it targeted the conservatives was because they're the most vocal supporting group, and idiots like this are less common in other demographics, therefore it would have made little sense to make such a broad statement given the topic at hand is already a specific group of conservatives.

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1230936)
I concur with Guitar Bizzare. Hip hop whatever your name is you're avoiding intelligent discussion by circling around it.

I think all Hip Hop was saying was why would you NOT expect to find idiots like this in the conservatives? I don't think he's being pedantic when you specifically said the point of the thread was Republican attitudes. Do you mean why aren't they further evolved than you'd like them to be?

TheBig3 09-13-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1230074)
Umm, ok, how is opposing abortion not Conservative? Conservatism is reactionary, meaning it seeks to maintain the society's values, and this nation certainly has a long, long history of opposition to abortion being a popular moral sentiment. Then there's the whole cluster**** of where, in the federal constitution, a right to abortion is found.

Only the poor. The rich would just fly off to Switzerland and have an abortion.

hip hop bunny hop 09-17-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1230936)
I concur with Guitar Bizzare. Hip hop whatever your name is you're avoiding intelligent discussion by circling around it.

Then why did you mention republicans & conservatives? Bitching about these groups opposing abortion is akin to complaining about Stalinists supporting centrally planned economys.

Scarlett O'Hara 09-17-2012 05:10 PM

Not a word, all I hear is circling.

hip hop bunny hop 09-21-2012 11:01 AM

What intelligent conversation did you expect to occur? The OP includes links to two wikipedia articles, one of which simply reports on a liberal meme. Further, you seem to be entirely ignorant of the fact that opposition to abortion isn't limited to Republicans (link)...

Really, the entire point of this thread seems to be "people who disagree with me on the issue of abortion are idiots". Is that how you expect an intelligent discussion to begin?

Scarlett O'Hara 09-23-2012 06:27 AM

But why can't I use the Republicans as an example? They are the most vocal about it, that's why I picked on them. Obviously there are exceptions.

hip hop bunny hop 09-25-2012 07:44 PM

Ok, use them as an example.... even though you're ignoring that the single ethnic group most likely to vote Democratic is the most fervently anti-abortion, but hey....

Now, if you're asking why people in the Republican Party oppose abortion, I'd say:

-people who strongly support or oppose abortion rights tend to exist in self-imposed cultural segregation.... meaning a sort of epistemic closure. Liberalism allows this & capitalism facilitates it, allowing for two people who've grown up in the same city & lived their entire lives there to develop radically different value sets from items as diverse & wide ranging as their touch stones for what is good art, who the best authors are, & - you know - basic components of morality such as "what is murder?".... Liberalism & Capitalism allow these folks to both coexist & be in good standing in their society.

-it's hard to coherently argue against the tenets of conservative christianity when one is simultaneously arguing for multiculturalism

Etc.

...is this what you meant?


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