The Daniel Tosh Incident

**Janszoon** · 07-19-2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine

I'll trust you. It's obvious that he's more intelligent than most of his audience. And more wealthy than most of the people he makes fun of. That's kind of his thing, no?

I think the school's a regular public school that's named that because it's near Cape Canaveral. I just found the name funny.

Engine · 07-19-2012, 12:38 AM

Oh, I thought you meant it was some kind of actual space camp thing. I went to Enterprise elementary school (regular public school). The school's logo included an astronaut and I assume that the theme was loosely based on fucking Star Trek.

So I was raised to arbitrarily feel more advanced than you - like Tosh was I guess.

Neapolitan · 07-19-2012, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

In case you haven't heard, Daniel Tosh of Comedy Central's "Tosh.0" was headlining at a comedy club in L.A. recently when the following exchange happened.

From here it escalated and Tosh later apologized. My question to you would be this:

1. Are rape jokes funny?

2. Should the woman have made the comment she did?

3. Did Tosh's response make things worse, or was the damage done?

4. Is rape beyond the pale?

5. Given Daniel Tosh's comedic style, should this have been expected?

How do you know if she wasn't in on it, like that guy Jim Carrey played in one of his movies where he had a plant in his audience (not like a household plant) but like someone he knew in on it to take the brunt of the joke & to excerbate a highly tense situtation into a conflict to make the audience feel uncomfortable.

It's beyond the pale.

ThePhanastasio · 07-19-2012, 02:33 AM

This kind of reminds me of the episode of Louis CK's show, Louie. The one with the heckler.

Kaimon · 07-20-2012, 03:09 AM

The best response we've heard to Daniel Tosh's 'misquoted' rape jokes - 2012-Jul-12 - CultureMap Austin

And my own two cents: rape jokes that make the victim the butt of the joke are the ones that shouldn't be made.

**Frownland** · 07-20-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

How do you know if she wasn't in on it, like that guy Jim Carrey played in one of his movies where he had a plant in his audience (not like a household plant) but like someone he knew in on it to take the brunt of the joke & to excerbate a highly tense situtation into a conflict to make the audience feel uncomfortable.

It's beyond the pale.

You mean Andy Kaufman, yes? Who knows, maybe Tosh was just doing an homage to the legend comic.

duga · 07-20-2012, 06:20 PM

My opinion on the issue aside, I think it would have been smarter for Tosh to stand by the response. If he really is apologizing and changing his show because of this, it shows he thinks it was too far as well. Now not only do his critics have more power behind their stance but his supporters are going to find him weak. He's done now... I wonder how it feels to end a promising career with one comment.

anticipation · 07-20-2012, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimon

The best response we've heard to Daniel Tosh's 'misquoted' rape jokes - 2012-Jul-12 - CultureMap Austin

And my own two cents: rape jokes that make the victim the butt of the joke are the ones that shouldn't be made.

So in this fantasy scenario do men frequently claim that women have cut their dicks off just to spite them? Because that does happen with women who get "raped" aka make bad decisions then ruin men's lives because of their insecurity and narcissism. Not saying that's the norm, just saying it unfortunately does happen. Everything in life isn't so cut and dry, no pun intended. Because if you cut a dick off it would probably be very wet, I would imagine.

Key · 07-20-2012, 11:33 PM

My opinion is probably the same as others. If you're going to a comedy show to take things seriously and you get offended, you shouldn't be at a comedy show in the first place.

Sparky · 07-21-2012, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by duga

My opinion on the issue aside, I think it would have been smarter for Tosh to stand by the response. If he really is apologizing and changing his show because of this, it shows he thinks it was too far as well. Now not only do his critics have more power behind their stance but his supporters are going to find him weak. He's done now... I wonder how it feels to end a promising career with one comment.

Not so much him but pressure from studio, his publicist, his agent, and whomever else he has upcoming affiliations with. I seriously doubt he's remorseful from an emotional standpoint.

It's not the end of his career. As you can tell most of his fanbase isn't bothered by it. His show revolves around circulating internet fame, I'm sure he's capable of garnering it himself.

Andy Milonaki's may not be a name to many since losing mtv, but he's has thousands of fans subscribed to his self promotion.

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duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	My opinion on the issue aside, I think it would have been smarter for Tosh to stand by the response. If he really is apologizing and changing his show because of this, it shows he thinks it was too far as well. Now not only do his critics have more power behind their stance but his supporters are going to find him weak. He's done now... I wonder how it feels to end a promising career with one comment. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

07-20-2012, 11:33 PM	#29 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	My opinion is probably the same as others. If you're going to a comedy show to take things seriously and you get offended, you shouldn't be at a comedy show in the first place.