Are people born gay?

Forward To Death · 06-01-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

So you're basically claiming that at any point, you can turn off your sexual attraction towards either men or women and that you can choose to not get aroused by a beautiful man or woman naked? Because that would imply choice, and I don't buy it for a second.

When did I even say that? I'm attracted to both, regardless, I made that choice myself, I think men and women are attractive. It's my choice, probably because of how I was raised. I'm also into a lot of other things that most women aren't into. I don't really want to say I'm masculine, but I guess I'm tomboyish, and all of my sisters as well, but it's because my dad raised us like that.

midnight rain · 06-01-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

When did I even say that? I'm attracted to both, regardless, I made that choice myself, I think men and women are attractive. It's my choice, probably because of how I was raised. I'm also into a lot of other things that most women aren't into. I don't really want to say I'm masculine, but I guess I'm tomboyish, and all of my sisters as well, but it's because my dad raised us like that.

Following the line of logic, if you chose to be attracted to a certain sex, why couldn't you choose to stop being attracted to them?

Saying I choose implies that I choose for my dick to go erect and my hormones to fluctuate. Again, I don't see it.

Forward To Death · 06-01-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Following the line of logic, if you chose to be attracted to a certain sex, why couldn't you choose to stop being attracted to them?

Saying I choose implies that I choose when my dick goes erect and my hormones fluctuate. Again, I don't see it.

Psychological choices are different, you're comparing apples to oranges. Sexual attraction is based off of fixations, so it's more or less an addiction, I'm pretty sure if you spent your life straight, and you thought a lot about what it would be like to go the other way, you could get into it. In fact, I know that you can, because I started off that way. I didn't switch teams, I just developed fixations for the female body, and perversions.

You can more or less choose if you want, just like you can choose to smoke pot, or be a sadist.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 06-01-2012, 04:53 PM

Umm, how could you even choose to change your preference? I could understand if you're talking about pansexuality because you are CHOOSING to be attracted to everyone on the gender spectrum, as you have to decide that you can accept that in a mate.

Why would anyone choose to be gay? After all the disparaging, ignorant remarks such as your own, why would anyone want to risk that? And "perversions" lawl.
Perversions are like pedophilia. There is absolutely nothing wrong with liking other women's bodies. I find women's bodies to be much more appealing than men's, does that make me gay? I'm on a steady of diet of cock, last time I checked.

CanwllCorfe · 06-01-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

There are also many studies pointing towards the importance of the fetal environment. It's now "famously" known that the more older brothers you have, the higher chance you have of being gay. I can't remember the specifics behind this, but it has something to do with male fetuses triggering an immune reaction in their mothers which becomes stronger with each successive child.

I heard about that as well. Three boys and my sister were born before me, so I laughed when I heard that. It may explain why I'm so different from my two other brothers, who are both conventionally masculine, whereas I'm more of a creative type/weirdo.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-01-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione

Umm, how could you even choose to change your preference? I could understand if you're talking about pansexuality because you are CHOOSING to be attracted to everyone on the gender spectrum, as you have to decide that you can accept that in a mate.

Why would anyone choose to be gay? After all the disparaging, ignorant remarks such as your own, why would anyone want to risk that? And "perversions" lawl.
Perversions are like pedophilia. There is absolutely nothing wrong with liking other women's bodies. I find women's bodies to be much more appealing than men's, does that make me gay? I'm on a steady of diet of cock, last time I checked.

Yeah I completely feel the same, I find women beautiful (well certain ones) and am attracted to them. However, I've never felt like I wanted to be with a woman. Sexy man arms and penis all the way.

Burning Down · 06-01-2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione

There is absolutely nothing wrong with liking other women's bodies. I find women's bodies to be much more appealing than men's, does that make me gay? I'm on a steady of diet of cock, last time I checked.

If it did, there would be a lot more lesbians out there!

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Sexy man arms and penis all the way.

**Goofle** · 06-01-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Rez

2. I cant read it because its so small. Go into the avatar thread and request them to put a bigger one. It can be 175 by 250 pixels max.

I see now, his account was disabled because he asked for a massive avatar. Damn you to hell avatar god's.

WWWP · 06-01-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

I'm attracted to both, regardless, I made that choice myself, I think men and women are attractive.

I am really interested to hear about when/how you made said choice. It seems that it would make more sense to say that one realizes they're attracted to both men and women - I can't personally remember any single moment in my life when I felt there was any conscious choice involved in regards to whom I was or was not attracted.

I'm not meaning to criticize you necessarily, and I appreciate that in one of your previous posts you made it clear that you don't claim to speak for anyone but yourself, but I am genuinely curious to know more about your experience in making this "choice."

TockTockTock · 06-01-2012, 11:49 PM

But is there any valid, conclusive scientific evidence supporting that sexual orientation is not a choice?

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06-01-2012, 04:53 PM	#84 (permalink)
~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	Umm, how could you even choose to change your preference? I could understand if you're talking about pansexuality because you are CHOOSING to be attracted to everyone on the gender spectrum, as you have to decide that you can accept that in a mate. Why would anyone choose to be gay? After all the disparaging, ignorant remarks such as your own, why would anyone want to risk that? And "perversions" lawl. Perversions are like pedophilia. There is absolutely nothing wrong with liking other women's bodies. I find women's bodies to be much more appealing than men's, does that make me gay? I'm on a steady of diet of cock, last time I checked.

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TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	But is there any valid, conclusive scientific evidence supporting that sexual orientation is not a choice?