Here's a thought...

The Fascinating Turnip · 04-21-2012, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

This is one of the most asinine and completely unrealistic statements I've ever heard. Prohibition works in theory, but never in practice? Really? Are you fucking kidding me?

Does this mean that you think prohibition works in practice? Or are you just up for cheap insults?

Howard the Duck · 04-21-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Unchained Ballad

Does this mean that you think prohibition works in practice? Or are you just up for cheap insults?

anticipation and tore are having some sort of feud

it started in the "Official Funny Picture Thread" over some scientific matter (of all things)

Guybrush · 04-21-2012, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

anticipation and tore are having some sort of feud

it started in the "Official Funny Picture Thread" over some scientific matter (of all things)

Yeah. I thought it ended in that thread, but it seems it didn't.

anticipation · 04-21-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Unchained Ballad

Does this mean that you think prohibition works in practice? Or are you just up for cheap insults?

Of fucking course it doesnt... That is the whole point of my post. This has nothing to do with a "feud", anyone who thinks that criminalization of substances is an effective and beneficial means of curbing addiction is completely delusional. It's like saying "Hey if we banned guns then the world would have no more violence."

Guybrush · 04-21-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

Of fucking course it doesnt... That is the whole point of my post. This has nothing to do with a "feud", anyone who thinks that criminalization of substances is an effective and beneficial means of curbing addiction is completely delusional. It's like saying "Hey if we banned guns then the world would have no more violence."

How effective prohibition is depends on environment and circumstance such as the availability of drugs and how the drug culture is. My point is we don't know how those circumstances are in the future and so prohibition could be viable. A lot of people just seem to assume it won't be.

And for the record, prohibition works just fine in present day Norway.

midnight rain · 04-21-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

Of fucking course it doesnt... That is the whole point of my post. This has nothing to do with a "feud", anyone who thinks that criminalization of substances is an effective and beneficial means of curbing addiction is completely delusional. It's like saying "Hey if we banned guns then the world would have no more violence."

Very effective use of hyperbole, because you know there's no middle ground in there! Very convincing argument!

And yeah, cut it with the insults. You can stop acting the genius in a room full of idiots, no one thinks it's as black and white as you're postulating.

Lilja · 04-21-2012, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Exoskeletal

Does anybody think that we as a society are doing things and believing in things that will be frowned upon and shamed in the future?

For example...

Our people used to own slaves.
Women couldn't vote.
Homosexuality was COMPLETELY not allowed.
Even when slavery was abolished there was little civil rights.
Prohibition.

As a society we eventually came to our sense on these subjects but the way human history works is that it will never end. In 50 years we're going to look back and go "Wow were we in the wrong on that".

My question is what do you think that'll be?

I would think that what would be more frowned upon in the future are the societies that refuse to admit that most of the subjects mentioned go on somewhere in the world (or maybe in their own backyard..such as the slave trade. )or perhaps acknowledge it but little to nothing is done because it is thought of in the terms "that is their problem, they need to deal with it..it doesn't affect us really." Just a thought.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 04-21-2012, 06:50 AM

I'm not one to discourage discussion, but honestly the drug prohibition thing has been done to death. There are many more social issues that could be tackled.

Astronomer · 04-21-2012, 08:33 AM

I wonder how much of an issue renewable energy/environmental pursuits/water supply etc will be in the future... I know over here we have huge debates about things like desalination plants and other similar endeavours, I wonder if in the future we will look back on the huge debates and arguments surrounding this issue and find it absurd. Like I wonder if we will ever wonder why anyone would want to argue against these things, given that preserving the environment will probably more of an issue in years to come...

~~James~~ · 04-21-2012, 10:35 AM

Homophobia, and the fact that gay marriage is still not legal in places will be the big one I think.
The gender gap. The fact that women can get paid less for the same job that a man does.

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Astronomer we are stardust Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,894	I wonder how much of an issue renewable energy/environmental pursuits/water supply etc will be in the future... I know over here we have huge debates about things like desalination plants and other similar endeavours, I wonder if in the future we will look back on the huge debates and arguments surrounding this issue and find it absurd. Like I wonder if we will ever wonder why anyone would want to argue against these things, given that preserving the environment will probably more of an issue in years to come... __________________

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~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	I'm not one to discourage discussion, but honestly the drug prohibition thing has been done to death. There are many more social issues that could be tackled.

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~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	Homophobia, and the fact that gay marriage is still not legal in places will be the big one I think. The gender gap. The fact that women can get paid less for the same job that a man does.