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hip hop bunny hop 03-19-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1166930)
Sounds like you either don't know what "egalitarianism" means or you don't know what "atheism" means. Maybe both.

Sorry, are you implying there is a some sort of relationship between these two notions? If so, I'd love, love, love to hear you elaborate on that.

anticipation 03-19-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1166937)
Sorry, are you implying there is a some sort of relationship between these two notions? If so, I'd love, love, love to hear you elaborate on that.

I think he's referring to the notion that endorsing an egalitarian ideology is somehow akin to having "faith" in organized religion, which of course is utter stupidity.

Paedantic Basterd 03-19-2012 10:51 PM

You should also factor the odds of offending your audience, and weigh them. F.ex: You're telling a rude joke about jews:

1) Your audience includes 0 jews: Tell the joke.
2) Your audience includes 1 jew, but their sense of humour aligns with your joke: Tell the joke.
3) Your audience is entirely jewish, but only one or two of them may be offended: Tell the joke.
4) Your audience includes a number of jewish people, and you have no idea how they might take it: Shut the hell up.
5) Your audience includes a number of Jewish people, and you can predict they won't appreciate it: Shut the hell up.

If tasteful behaviour isn't common sense, then it's a matter of respecting your audience.


Forward To Death 03-19-2012 10:51 PM

Also, when you think about it relating to this forum. How much of music would we object to if we all hated dark comedy? A lot of my favorite music has a dark, sarcastic sense of humor.

anticipation 03-19-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1166939)
You should also factor the odds of offending your audience, and weigh them. F.ex: You're telling a rude joke about jews:

1) Your audience includes 0 jews: Tell the joke.
2) Your audience includes 1 jew, but their sense of humour aligns with your joke: Tell the joke.
3) Your audience is entirely jewish, but only one or two of them may be offended: Tell the joke.
4) Your audience includes a number of jewish people, and you have no idea how they might take it: Shut the hell up.
5) Your audience includes a number of Jewish people, and you can predict they won't appreciate it: Shut the hell up.

If tasteful behaviour isn't common sense, then it's a matter of respecting your audience.


So basically you're advocating the censorship of your own thoughts and feelings in order to please the lowest common denominator? Not everyone is a comedian, and literally everyday of my own professional work life every single boundary of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc. is "crossed" just for a cheap laugh. Being offended isn't something the offender can control; you're always going to displease some people. If you've any idea of "tasteful behavior" as a concrete and valuable moral code by which you should live your life then I would very much recommend you to grow the fuck up. It's a jungle out there.

Forward To Death 03-19-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1166939)
You should also factor the odds of offending your audience, and weigh them. F.ex: You're telling a rude joke about jews:

1) Your audience includes 0 jews: Tell the joke.
2) Your audience includes 1 jew, but their sense of humour aligns with your joke: Tell the joke.
3) Your audience is entirely jewish, but only one or two of them may be offended: Tell the joke.
4) Your audience includes a number of jewish people, and you have no idea how they might take it: Shut the hell up.
5) Your audience includes a number of Jewish people, and you can predict they won't appreciate it: Shut the hell up.

If tasteful behaviour isn't common sense, then it's a matter of respecting your audience.


Sometimes, if not most times, those who take the most offense are people who aren't even targeted. Some white people I know get offended when I refer to black people as black. All of my black friends prefer to be called black. In fact, I believe almost every study on said issue has concluded with an overwhelming majority preferring the term.

This is where it becomes difficult to predict a reaction.

Paedantic Basterd 03-19-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1166942)
So basically you're advocating the censorship of your own thoughts and feelings in order to please the lowest common denominator? Not everyone is a comedian, and literally everyday of my own professional work life every single boundary of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc. is "crossed" just for a cheap laugh. Being offended isn't something the offender can control; you're always going to displease some people. If you've any idea of "tasteful behavior" as a concrete and valuable moral code by which you should live your life then I would very much recommend you to grow the fuck up. It's a jungle out there.

I'm advocating common courtesy. Says a lot about you that you chose to interpret it as you have.

anticipation 03-19-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1166944)
I'm advocating common courtesy. Says a lot about you that you chose to interpret it as you have.

Common courtesy is a brainwashing in my opinion. I have a very healthy respect for most living things but I do not however care so much whether I am liked for my beliefs as I am respected and left to pursue them. I do not act as though my ideas for how others should act are above question just because of antiquated sentimental morality. I live in the real world.

Forward To Death 03-19-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1166942)
So basically you're advocating the censorship of your own thoughts and feelings in order to please the lowest common denominator? Not everyone is a comedian, and literally everyday of my own professional work life every single boundary of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc. is "crossed" just for a cheap laugh. Being offended isn't something the offender can control; you're always going to displease some people. If you've any idea of "tasteful behavior" as a concrete and valuable moral code by which you should live your life then I would very much recommend you to grow the fuck up. It's a jungle out there.

It's different if you tell jokes for a living, or you're with people who will most likely not react poorly. I won't tell a distasteful joke in an improper setting, but if I were a comedian, people can expect to hear something outrageous. You're paid to tell it like it is in your mind, not be pleasant.

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1166946)
Common courtesy is a brainwashing in my opinion. I have a very healthy respect for most living things but I do not however care so much whether I am liked for my beliefs as I am respected and left to pursue them. I do not act as though my ideas for how others should act are above question just because of antiquated sentimental morality. I live in the real world.

I agree, but there's a time and a place where speaking your mind will get nothing but embarrassment, or worse. This too is the real world.

Frownland 03-19-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1166946)
Common courtesy is a brainwashing in my opinion.

Interesting, so not flaunting your nude body in front of your grandmother is the source of societal norms perpetrated by the government?


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