Howard the Duck

i was in the midst of typing this when my timer shut off my line (i have a curfew) yesternight:-

i have yet even gotten used to alcohol

i'm slightly allergic to it and i get rashes whenever i drink

doesn't stop me drinking

porn doesn't do that and i'm not allergic to porn.... so........

some of my previous exes watched porn with me regularly, and one even beat her meat to it

my fiancee is not open to it, though - she's just not into that

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MoonlitSunshine

Not entiiiirely correct. That's a rather sweeping statement, and while I would agree with you if a "Much porn demeans..." edit was made to that phrase, there is definitely porn out there that doesn't demean or objectify women. Gay porn being a pretty good example of that . Even in heterosexual porn though:

I feel exactly the same way. In support of Pedestrian's post, it's often really difficult to find something that doesn't involve some sort of unnecessarily painful domination on behalf of the man, but porn will always play to the majority audience - it's only relatively recently become "accepted" that pretty much everyone watches porn, rather than just the guys who guffaw loudly in bars with groping the staff, so it's hardly surprising that the porn industry has had its sights aimed squarely on that demographic.

Does it have a negative effect? Porn in general, No. Especially if it is accepted that people watch porn and is no longer something that shy kids who don't really feel comfortable talking about personal stuff feel the need to hide (I probably lied about that in my youth more than any other single thing. By "youth" I mean pretty much up until I was 21).

The fact that the dominating aspect of porn is that of "Man abusing woman sexually and her making it sound like she's enjoying it" however is a problem, because I can't help but think that it isn't helping innocently ignorant young men get a very, very wrong view of what sex and relationships are meant to be like. Sure, most people should know and recognise the difference, but if you aint taught better, porn sure as hell aint gonna teach you.

Amusingly, the main reason I am ok talking about the fact that I watch porn and hell, even the fact that I have masturbated is because my gf was so open about it from the day I met her. She's still far more comfortable about it than I am. Neither of us particularly feel the need to watch porn together, but she has clearly stated that she is dragging me along to a lap-dancing/strip club at some point because I've never been to one.

My views are that sexuality is nothing to be ashamed of. We all have libido, we all have urges, and porn is an outlet for those urges. Does it need to change? A little bit, yes. If the "standard" form of porn was made one where everyone involved was realistically enjoying it, it might piss off the guffawing louts in the bars groping all the women nearby, but it would be a lot less negative and hell, probably more culturally acceptable. Sure, keep the choking stuff if you want it - there are plenty of masochistic people out there who would enjoy it, the sheer number of fetish videos out there is proof of that, but provided it is listed as a fetish, it won't be considered as normal behaviour by those who don't know better.


Oh, and the STI's, debacle: it's true that the industry has got a lot better at controlling venereal diseases, due to regular checks etc. etc, but due to the claims of a number of big producers that "noone watches porn with condoms" (something which from the "ignorance" perspective could probably do with a change), They don't always catch them.

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slatesphanboi

Bingo.

I'm no alpha male and am not going to be scoring chicks so porn is there as a sexual outlet.

Imagine I didn't keep to myself and watched spank-tra-vision at home, but instead decided to hit on random chicks for casual sex:

1.) It would really annoy all the chicks I hit on.

(A young woman at the University of Pennsylvania who wore a short skirt complained of a "mini-rape" because a young man walked past her and said, "Nice legs." (Camille Paglia and Christine Hoff Sommers, "Has Feminism Gone Too Far?" Think Tank with Ben Wattenberg, Produced by New River Media, Washington, DC, November 4, 1994.)

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2.) Would probably get arrested for sexual harrassment.

3.) It would waste alot of time.

4.) The constant rejection from women would lower my self-esteem even more.

Urban Hat€monger ?

5.) If you want them to shut up you can just mute it.

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FRED HALE SR.

I usually watch my porn with the saturday night fever soundtrack in the background.

Urban Hat€monger ?

I prefer the theme from Shaft

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someonecompletelyrandom

As tore pointed out, even your own sources seem to be counter to your claim. The entire industry was even shut down after the announcement that just one pornographic actor had contracted HIV.

Guybrush

Yes, of course it's going to happen, but it seems weekly HIV testing and measures like temporarily closing down production makes sure the virus doesn't get to spread too far in the industry.

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someonecompletelyrandom

Interestingly, the rate of infection is lower for porn industry actors than people of similar demographics, perhaps due to the frequent testing. I agree that it most definitely can happen, but Zero's claim that you are "probably watching HIV positive people screw" doesn't seem to have much ground.

However, it's worth noting that the California porn industry may be much different from foreign or "underground" markets who may have looser regulations. There's a real shady side of porn out there that I'm sure doesn't screen for sexually transmitted diseases weekly, if at all.

LoathsomePete

I'm pretty ambivalent on the subject of porn. I do think there are some aspects of it that are incredibly demeaning to women like cum shots, but at the same time it is servicing a desire from a large part of the population. I do think some of the pornstars do get a bad rep, like parents getting pissed off at a school because they let Sasha Grey do a reading to some students. At the end of the day though, it's just something that I don't really care about. I'm not going to dedicate hours out of my day to finding and watching it. Its only purpose is to provide visual and audible stimulation when I masturbate in order for me to get off that much quicker. I kind of just leave it at that.

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