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Old 02-13-2012, 04:50 PM   #141 (permalink)
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I will say really why I am not for gay marriage

1) I feel that a marriage is meant to between a man and a woman. I can't really imagine same sex really being able to produce children on their own. They will always need surrogant mothers to get children.

2) Another reason is that it will not solve the issue of hatred of gay people. In fact, I fear that they will be a major civil war between pro-gay marriage people and anti-gay marriage people and that they will be so much conflict that people will die. I know this because at my school, this issue never has a good debate instead fighting. Their will be more of that if gay marriage is legalized. Believe me, that will be the case.

Conan, thanks again for your respect. I respect you man. Thanks for defending though you disagree with you. Like I said, I am nice to everyone. I will always welcome the gays with me. No problem.
If your welcoming of the gays, it seems a very natural step to accept the fact they want to be in a marriage union. They want the rights you are afforded plain and simple.
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:51 PM   #142 (permalink)
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If your welcoming of the gays, it seems a very natural step to accept the fact they want to be in a marriage union. They want the rights you are afforded plain and simple.
Now that just ain't natural
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:00 PM   #143 (permalink)
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If your welcoming of the gays, it seems a very natural step to accept the fact they want to be in a marriage union. They want the rights you are afforded plain and simple.
Another great point. Marriage is the one of a long string of civil liberties everyone is entitled to - allowing it for some but not others is not only unfair but also inconsistent.
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:08 AM   #144 (permalink)
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1) I feel that a marriage is meant to between a man and a woman.
Why? Why is it meant to be between a man and a woman? If it's just because of your "feeling" and has no logical basis, then you should stop polluting logical discussions, because gut "feelings" have no place in them. Give us actual logical reasons why you think homosexuality is wrong (i.e. I don't want to hear about your "feelings") or just admit that you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Old 02-14-2012, 11:24 AM   #145 (permalink)
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I am going to make this really simple for everyone posting in this thread. This discussion is boiling down to two possibilities:

1) Posters are harassing a member of this forum, which will result in moderator action.
2) A user of this forum is trolling threads, and posters are motivating them to do so.

In either outcome, the conversation is going to end the same way. Here is a suggestion to circumvent all of the frustration possibilities 1 & 2 have to offer:

  • Stop responding to the inflammatory posts.

Mods have been in and out of this thread, and if it gets out of hand one more time, there will be consequences.



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Old 02-14-2012, 11:30 AM   #146 (permalink)
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I am going to make this really simple for everyone posting in this thread. This discussion is boiling down to two possibilities:

1) Posters are harassing a member of this forum, which will result in moderator action.
Fine. There's nothing to be gained from this discussion anyway. But this is exactly what I was talking about, if he isn't a troll, he still brought this on himself and deserves what he gets. Other people shouldn't be punished for his crap.
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Fine. There's nothing to be gained from this discussion anyway. But this is exactly what I was talking about, if he isn't a troll, he still brought this on himself and deserves what he gets. Other people shouldn't be punished for his crap.
Be the bigger man here.
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:34 AM   #148 (permalink)
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Be the bigger man here.
I am. The rule still bugs me though, but I know it's not gonna change and I don't feel like banging my head against the wall. So, it is what it is I guess.
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I am. The rule still bugs me though, but I know it's not gonna change and I don't feel like banging my head against the wall. So, it is what it is I guess.
It's pretty simple really. You try debating with someone. If they turn out to be a blabbering retard don't bother doing it again.

The more people do this the more ignored they'll get and they'll either do 3 things.

1. Wise up & stop Trolling
2. Get bored and leave because nobody's biting.
3. Ramp up the trolling to the point where us mods can categorically say OK he's trolling time to go.

It's simple really. He'll I've seen No 3 happen in a matter of less than a couple of weeks before.
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:24 PM   #150 (permalink)
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So what's being said here, is if we don't play Franco's silly game, he'll just get bored and find something more interesting to do in Minnesota. And hopefully, a more intelligent debater will take up his slack.

This sounds good, so Franco me old china, do the decent thing and bugger off!
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