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Unknown Soldier 02-12-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1153775)
Yay, I don't buy that. You are a angry person. I feel bad for you.

Thanks for your concern.

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1153781)
Insulting people for different opinions leads to nowhere.

Neither does spouting out contradictory bollocks.

Sansa Stark 02-12-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1153777)
Once again, attacking me is not a solution. You are not helping yourself. If you call me a bigot then go ahead but all your name calling will comeback and bit you BRUTALLY.

You can attack gays though and call them "wrong" even though it's quite natural, yet I'm attacking you? Do you know we have gay people here even on musicbanter?? Maybe they feel attacked by your unfounded ideas about how they are immoral. You still aren't answering me though, do you need me to make it clearer?


WHAT THE FUCK IS MORALLY WRONG ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY


whew, that oughta do it.

Franco Pepe Kalle 02-12-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubato (Post 1153791)
It's not so much your opinion but your belief that it should enforced, even if you are against gay marriage do you not believe it should be peoples right to be "wrong" (as you put it). Given the chance would you vote against it or would you not bother?

Hahaha, I said that I am not for GAY MARRIAGE. I already said in Minnesota, they are trying to legalize it. If they do, fine. I won't do anything to REPEAL IT. GET THE POINT.

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 1153793)
You can attack gays though and call them "wrong" even though it's quite natural, yet I'm attacking you? Do you know we have gay people here even on musicbanter?? Maybe they feel attacked by your unfounded ideas about how they are immoral. You still aren't answering me though, do you need me to make it clearer?


WHAT THE FUCK IS MORALLY WRONG ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY


whew, that oughta do it.

It is that you love the SAME SEX. You should not love the same sex. You should love the opposite sex. But as I said, if someone is gay then I will not force them to change. They can be what they want even if I don't agree with it personally. DOES THAT EXPLAIN YOUR QUESTION?

Sansa Stark 02-12-2012 03:55 PM

What is wrong about that? Why do you get to dictate what's wrong and what's right? You say it's natural, but why the **** do you get to say anything about it? I will reiterate, something between two consenting adults (or four-50 if they're into that thing) is NOT MORALLY WRONG. They're not hurting anybody, except your poor lily white sensibilities.

Franco Pepe Kalle 02-12-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 1153802)
What is wrong about that? Why do you get to dictate what's wrong and what's right? You say it's natural, but why the **** do you get to say anything about it? I will reiterate, something between two consenting adults (or four-50 if they're into that thing) is NOT MORALLY WRONG. They're not hurting anybody, except your poor lily white sensibilities.

Fine, you can stick to your view while I stick to mine.

Sansa Stark 02-12-2012 03:58 PM

So you concede you're a bigot then?

PoorOldPo 02-12-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1153798)
It is that you love the SAME SEX. You should not love the same sex. You should love the opposite sex. But as I said, if someone is gay then I will not force them to change. They can be what they want even if I don't agree with it personally. DOES THAT EXPLAIN YOUR QUESTION?

Ehhhhhh nope. What is morally wrong is hating another human being for being in love. Why is it that nearly every species on the planet has homosexual tendancies like humanity. Is nature morally wrong as well?

Franco, for me to even make the factual statement " They can't help the way they are born " is insulting enough as it is. People are born the way they are born, it is simple as that. You were not born with this hateful opinion, it was taught to you. please try to understand that.


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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 1153804)
So you concede you're a bigot then?



Calling him names isn't going to change his opinion, life experiences will.

Salami 02-12-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 1153802)
What is wrong about that? Why do you get to dictate what's wrong and what's right? You say it's natural, but why the **** do you get to say anything about it? I will reiterate, something between two consenting adults (or four-50 if they're into that thing) is NOT MORALLY WRONG. They're not hurting anybody, except your poor lily white sensibilities.

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 1153793)
You can attack gays though and call them "wrong" even though it's quite natural, yet I'm attacking you? Do you know we have gay people here even on musicbanter?? Maybe they feel attacked by your unfounded ideas about how they are immoral. You still aren't answering me though, do you need me to make it clearer?

And thanks for saying that - I can say that I know AT LEAST ONE gay person who has decided against making a personal contribution to this thread because they felt too intimidated against the response they would get.


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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1153798)
It is that you love the SAME SEX. You should not love the same sex. You should love the opposite sex.

Can I just add that reasons for this are either religious (why those makes no sense I've already explained) or "gut feeling", which really aren't even remotely acceptable grounds to impose your will upon another person.

If you give us a reason why you think there's a clear cut, moral reason why being gay is wrong, then that's fine.

But I have yet to see one of those, and neither have I been convinced in any way by your arguments: no offense, but I've seen a lot of "this is WRONG", but very little explanation as to why exactly there are plausible moral objections to homosexuality.

Franco Pepe Kalle 02-12-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 1153804)
So you concede you're a bigot then?

NO. I am not for gay marriage. But I support Gays getting health benefits, being able to serve army openly and civil union.

Sansa Stark 02-12-2012 04:03 PM

So why shouldn't they be able to get married?


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