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Old 02-12-2012, 04:07 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Freedom of choice, as it is for any heterosexual couple.



Seems like you do care though, based on your hostility on here, to people who want to exercise the right to get married. People of any type of sexual persuasion, should have the option to determine whether they want to get married or not, once they are over a certain age.

English is not your first language is it?
Man you watch your little mouth. OK. I do not hate Gay People. LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR. I DO NOT HATE GAY PEOPLE. Come on. GROW UP.

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Okay, I can respect that you have an opinion that you don't like to force on people. So moving on, may I ask why you have that opinion? Why don't you think anyone should be gay? Is it for religious reasons perhaps? It's perfectly fine if it is.
It is because I believe in my own judgement. I believe it. I will not force things down people's throat. As I said, I personally I am for Traditional Marriage but if Gay Marriage is legalized, I won't care because gays get what they want. No problem with me if you ask. In fact I have seen a few gay people myself and I always welcome them. In fact I told most of my friends that I am not for gay marriage and I don't insult gay people. I believe gay couples should have a public union and also gays should be able to adopt children and I believe that gays can get health benefits that everyone can get. I also believe that gays should be able to serve the army openly. See I am not a homophobe. I am personally not for Gay Marriage.

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People oppose gay marriage because they're hateful bigots like you.
Can you please tell me why I am a bigot for opposing gay marriage. I don't know if what mind are you but please explain to me HOW I AM A BIGOT FOR OPPOSING GAY MARRIAGE.
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:15 PM   #92 (permalink)
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You say they can serve in the military, eh? Tell me, why should they die for your rights, but not for their own?
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:19 PM   #93 (permalink)
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You say they can serve in the military, eh? Tell me, why should they die for your rights, but not for their own?
Well I am making a point that gays should be able to serve the army as who they are. That is all. That is common sense. I am not for gay marriage but I am for Gay Civil Union.
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Well I am making a point that gays should be able to serve the army as who they are. That is all. That is common sense. I am not for gay marriage but I am for Gay Civil Union.
Why won't you answer my question? I feel ignored and lonely

What are your reasons for opposing gay marriage - apart from justifying your position from tradition?
Remember tradition is lees important than people's rights, and an anachronistic tradition, such as slavery, is something that ought to be abandoned if people's rights are being infringed.
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It is because I believe in my own judgement. I believe it. I will not force things down people's throat. As I said, I personally I am for Traditional Marriage but if Gay Marriage is legalized, I won't care because gays get what they want. No problem with me if you ask. In fact I have seen a few gay people myself and I always welcome them. In fact I told most of my friends that I am not for gay marriage and I don't insult gay people. I believe gay couples should have a public union and also gays should be able to adopt children and I believe that gays can get health benefits that everyone can get. I also believe that gays should be able to serve the army openly. See I am not a homophobe. I am personally not for Gay Marriage.
So lets get this nonsense of yours cleared up now.

You welcome gay people, you believe that they should have some kind of public union, YOU EVEN BELIEVE NOW THAT THEY SHOULD ADOPT KIDS, but you still oppose gay marriage!!!

Instead of sticking to your rusty guns that were firing blanks, you've now done a u-turn and have embraced certain gay liberties, whilst still slamming gay marraige.

Your debate is full of contradictions, but I'm sure you'll plod on, in an attempt to find some type of moral high ground.
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So lets get this nonsense of yours cleared up now.

You welcome gay people, you believe that they should have some kind of public union, YOU EVEN BELIEVE NOW THAT THEY SHOULD ADOPT KIDS, but you still oppose gay marriage!!!

Instead of sticking to your rusty guns that were firing blanks, you've now done a u-turn and have embraced certain gay liberties, whilst still slamming gay marraige.

Your debate is full of contradictions, but I'm sure you'll plod on, in an attempt to find some type of moral high ground.
This is confusing me () - you must therefore say that your only basis for objection is an appeal to tradition?
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:29 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Why won't you answer my question? I feel ignored and lonely

What are your reasons for opposing gay marriage - apart from justifying your position from tradition?
Remember tradition is lees important than people's rights, and an anachronistic tradition, such as slavery, is something that ought to be abandoned if people's rights are being infringed.
I am sorry for not answering your questions. I was about to respond to your question but then some idiots insulted by falsely accusing me for being a homophobe.

I already told you why I oppose gay marriage. I will only give you two reasons. One is that to me, a marriage is meant to be a two opposite unions to come together and become one couple not two same unions. Second, I just personally can't imagine gay marriage occuring. I can never really imagine it myself. Those two reasons are why I am for traditional marriage.
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Those aren't, well, valid though. They're your biases, yes, but they're not logically sound opinions.
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Man you watch your little mouth. OK. I do not hate Gay People. LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR. I DO NOT HATE GAY PEOPLE. Come on. GROW UP.



It is because I believe in my own judgement. I believe it. I will not force things down people's throat. As I said, I personally I am for Traditional Marriage but if Gay Marriage is legalized, I won't care because gays get what they want. No problem with me if you ask. In fact I have seen a few gay people myself and I always welcome them. In fact I told most of my friends that I am not for gay marriage and I don't insult gay people. I believe gay couples should have a public union and also gays should be able to adopt children and I believe that gays can get health benefits that everyone can get. I also believe that gays should be able to serve the army openly. See I am not a homophobe. I am personally not for Gay Marriage.



Can you please tell me why I am a bigot for opposing gay marriage. I don't know if what mind are you but please explain to me HOW I AM A BIGOT FOR OPPOSING GAY MARRIAGE.
Umm because you don't have any good reason for why homosexuality or anything that isnt heteronormative is immoral. Once you put that out there, you are spreading hateful language. I don't really see why anyone would oppose it anyway, and the only reasons I've heard opposing it are ones like yours, which say that gays are immoral and going to hell.
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So lets get this nonsense of yours cleared up now.

You welcome gay people, you believe that they should have some kind of public union, YOU EVEN BELIEVE NOW THAT THEY SHOULD ADOPT KIDS, but you still oppose gay marriage!!!

Instead of sticking to your rusty guns that were firing blanks, you've now done a u-turn and have embraced certain gay liberties, whilst still slamming gay marraige.

Your debate is full of contradictions, but I'm sure you'll plod on, in an attempt to find some type of moral high ground.
You must be a angry. I WAS MAKING A POINT. JEEZ. My point is that you should assume people who don't support gay marriage are homophobes. I am one of them. I love gay people and in fact I would welcome as friends. SERIOUSLY.
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