American Presidency Campaign

crash_override · 01-11-2012, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Dr. Paul finished second tonight! As for the racist thing, I think Paul feels that a man should have the freedom to be racist, but if that man takes action and harms another man, then it becomes a problem.

Second place finish in NH is huge. You already knew Romney was going to take 1st, it's HIS state... NH was a race for second from the start. Top-tier finishes in both Iowa and NH for Ron Paul are a huge victory. South Carolina will be the real test.

As for your take on the race thing, I get what you're saying, but I don't like the way you put it. I agree, that while racism is morally wrong, the government should have zero role in trying to enforce diversity and integration. Letting those things happen on their own is the only way we'll ever achieve true harmony as a society. In that aspect I agree with Dr. Paul, as I do about 90% of the time.

blastingas10 · 01-11-2012, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

Second place finish in NH is huge. You already knew Romney was going to take 1st, it's HIS state... NH was a race for second from the start. Top-tier finishes in both Iowa and NH for Ron Paul are a huge victory. South Carolina will be the real test.

As for your take on the race thing, I get what you're saying, but I don't like the way you put it. I agree, that while racism is morally wrong, the government should have zero role in trying to enforce diversity and integration. Letting those things happen on their own is the only way we'll ever achieve true harmony as a society. In that aspect I agree with Dr. Paul, as I do about 90% of the time.

Why don't you like the way I put it?

I too think that racism is morally wrong. But if someone wants to be racist, that's their choice.

crash_override · 01-11-2012, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Why don't you like the way I put it?

I too think that racism is morally wrong. But if someone wants to be racist, that's their choice.

You just make it sound like it's no big deal to be racist. When in fact, it is. But that's a social matter, not a federal one.

blastingas10 · 01-11-2012, 03:47 AM

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You just make it sound like it's no big deal to be racist. When in fact, it is. But that's a social matter, not a federal one.

Well it's very ignorant to be racist. If you're racist and you don't verbally or physically harm anyone who you are prejudiced against, then I don't think it is a big deal. In a way it is, but you're entitled to believe what you want. And as long as you don't exercise those beliefs in a harmful manner, then Its not that big of a deal, in my opinion. You're only harming yourself with your own ignorance. Unfortunately most racist people usually will exercise that racism in a harmful way.

Engine · 01-11-2012, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Well it's very ignorant to be racist. If you're racist and you don't verbally or physically harm anyone who you are prejudiced against, then I don't think it is a big deal. In a way it is, but you're entitled to believe what you want. And as long as you don't exercise those beliefs in a harmful manner, then Its not that big of a deal, in my opinion. You're only harming yourself with your own ignorance. Unfortunately most racist people usually will exercise that racism in a harmful way.

I don't think so.
I think the vast majority of racists will never outwardly do anything but that they'll only stew in their own hateful juices.
Otherwise I agree with you that people are allowed to feel however they want to feel about anything as long as it stays in their own possibly twisted minds. But that's okay because we all should be allowed to hate (and love) whoever for whatever personal reasons as long as nobody is harmed.
Let's punish crimes, not thoughts.
No thought police.

blastingas10 · 01-11-2012, 04:14 AM

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I don't think so.
I think the vast majority of racists will never outwardly do anything but that they'll only stew in their own hateful juices.
Otherwise I agree with you that people are allowed to feel however they want to feel about anything as long as it stays in their own possibly twisted minds. But that's okay because we all should be allowed to hate (and love) whoever for whatever personal reasons as long as nobody is harmed.
Let's punish crimes, not thoughts.
No thought police.

I guess I was thinking more along the lines of the Nazis and the KKK. I guess the racists who exercise their beliefs in a harmful way are the ones who really stand out.

Engine · 01-11-2012, 04:21 AM

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I guess I was thinking more along the lines of the Nazis and the KKK. I guess the racists who exercise their beliefs in a harmful way are the ones who really stand out.

Yes, but those are probably the minority of racists. My point is that I don't care about racism except for that of lawbreaking ones. I believe that the KKK and 'Nazis' should be put out of business when they actually break laws and/or hurt someone. I don't give a fuck what those people, or any other racists, think in private.

~~Rubato~~ · 01-11-2012, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

the government should have zero role in trying to enforce diversity and integration. Letting those things happen on their own is the only way we'll ever achieve true harmony as a society.

If that were true the government would never have needed to enforce anything, left on its own we'd just see more minorities being forced into ghettos.