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TheBig3 · 01-25-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Well, he's done some good things like make the environment a priority and brought some troops back home, but the economy is in pretty bad shape.

My head is about to explode. What did he do to the economy except improve it?

blastingas10 · 01-25-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

Better than when he came into office.

Certainly better than Bush.

blastingas10 · 01-25-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

My head is about to explode. What did he do to the economy except improve it?

Calm down, man. I'm not trying to piss you off. Just asked a question. I've just been watching too many republican debates.

TheBig3 · 01-25-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Calm down, man. I'm not trying to piss you off. Just asked a question. I've just been watching too many republican debates.

Well if it makes you feel any better, it was a general explosion. Not at you. I read too many comments on Politico articles.

Here, try this: What the heck has Obama done so far?

blastingas10 · 01-25-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Well if it makes you feel any better, it was a general explosion. Not at you. I read too many comments on Politico articles.

Here, try this: What the heck has Obama done so far?

Yes, I've looked at that before. I guess I was just looking for a direct answer from you.

Also guilty of overlooking the fact that there's only so much a president can do in four years. And what I mean by that is of course he can't whip it up into to perfect shape in four years, considering what he inherited from Bush.

But the unemployment rate has risen in Obama's term.

TheBig3 · 01-25-2012, 03:40 PM

1. Whats the difference between me giving you facts or a website?

2. Its not "in 4 years" even, its "at all". Congress is the driving force in this country. Its why they're first in the constitution, its why they have the control of the finances.

3. Its not fair to blame Bush 43 alone. It was 30 years of undoing financial regulation we had had in place since the 1930's. I think Congress repealed Glass-Stegal in '98 or '99 and that's what lead to most of this.

4. The unemployment is falling. Jobs are coming home. Jobs are a lagging indicator. And we're slashing the debt by moving troops out at a more rapid rate.

What else do you want from the guy?

blastingas10 · 01-25-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

1. Whats the difference between me giving you facts or a website?

2. Its not "in 4 years" even, its "at all". Congress is the driving force in this country. Its why they're first in the constitution, its why they have the control of the finances.

3. Its not fair to blame Bush 43 alone. It was 30 years of undoing financial regulation we had had in place since the 1930's. I think Congress repealed Glass-Stegal in '98 or '99 and that's what lead to most of this.

4. The unemployment is falling. Jobs are coming home. Jobs are a lagging indicator. And we're slashing the debt by moving troops out at a more rapid rate.

What else do you want from the guy?

1. There is no difference, I just asked you for some reason

I was just simply stating that the unemployment has gone up since he took over.

hip hop bunny hop · 01-25-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

As for your position on marriage equality, my question back to you is "why can't they marry people of the same sex?" Marriage isn't specified in the Constitution, and the 14th Amendment is the trumping law given American Laws hierarchy. So states banning gay marriage are illegal by virtue of the U.S. Constitution.

States denying same-sex marriage would only be illegal, under the auspices of the 14th amendment, if the Federal Government made same-sex marriage legal (or, rather, recognized it is as equal to heterosexual marriages). However, due to the relative lack of Federal Laws regarding marriage, as this area has traditionally been left to the states, the only realistic way this could happen is an Amendment to the Constitution. This is why Conservatives moved for an amendment banning same-sex marriage.

You may have a bone to pick with the Defense of Marriage Act, as that arguably messes with the “Full Faith & Credit Clause” of the Constitution.

Alfred · 01-25-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Here, try this: What the heck has Obama done so far?

I dunno man, I'm seeing a fair bit of "increased funding for..."

~~Rubato~~ · 01-25-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

I dunno man, I'm seeing a fair bit of "increased funding for..."

What's wrong with government funding? it's far more productive than lowering taxes for the higher brackets.

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TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	1. Whats the difference between me giving you facts or a website? 2. Its not "in 4 years" even, its "at all". Congress is the driving force in this country. Its why they're first in the constitution, its why they have the control of the finances. 3. Its not fair to blame Bush 43 alone. It was 30 years of undoing financial regulation we had had in place since the 1930's. I think Congress repealed Glass-Stegal in '98 or '99 and that's what lead to most of this. 4. The unemployment is falling. Jobs are coming home. Jobs are a lagging indicator. And we're slashing the debt by moving troops out at a more rapid rate. What else do you want from the guy? __________________ I've moved to a new address