blastingas10

Yes, he personally doesn't agree with gay marriage. But if he were president, he would allow states to vote for it themselves. Can't say the same about the other candidates. Gay marriage is up to the states. If a state wanted to legalize gay marriage, then he would allow that.

TheBig3

Its a Civil Liberty. Its in the Constitution that it should be legal. How are you ok with States banning it? That's in direct contrast.

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blastingas10

Is it? The Fourteenth Amendment was used in the landmark case of Loving v. Virginia to repeal anti-miscegenation laws, making interracial marriage legal. But it doesn't exactly cover same-sex marriage. I would like Paul to fully support gay marriage, but at least he's more lenient towards it than the other republicans. I'm not going to quit supporting him just based on that one issue.

TheBig3

Why doesn't it exactly cover it? Read the 14th Amendment. Tell me why it won't cover it?

States Rights has been horribly corrupted because every time its been invoked, historically, it has been over an issue that wasn't a states right.

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ribbons

Incarcerated murders and child molesters are allowed to marry, but gay people are not? It's disgraceful.

hip hop bunny hop

Eh? Really, every time it's been invoked it's been over an issue that wasn't within their rights? While I recognize you're being hyperbolic, an easy example is the portion of the Civil Rights Act of '64 which changed the interpretation of the Bill of Rights from governing the relationship between The Government & The Governed to relationships between the Governed. The most obvious example being forcing private businesses to desegregate.



Well, the relevant section of the 14th amendment is:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Maintaining marriage is between two people of different sexes =/= not denying homosexuals life, liberty or property. Homosexuals can still marry and recieve all the benefits therein, they just can't marry people of the same sex. So what this is about, then, is the definition of marriage.

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Janszoon

No they weren't. One of them was specifically directed at frownland and the bulk of your comments were directed at "everybody who doesn't like Ron Paul".

And that makes him gay-friendly how exactly?

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blastingas10

But I mostly had you in mind when I said it.

It makes him more lenient towards gay marriage than the other candidates. Santorum thinks that a child with a father in prison would be better off than a child who was has gay parents.

Janszoon

You mostly had me in mind when you referred to comments made by other people? That's odd.

Not really. It just means he thinks the states should block gay marriage instead of the fed.

What's your point? The fact that Santorum sucks doesn't magically make me like Ron Paul.

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My point is that he doesn't want to flat out dictate the issue like the other republicans. The others don't even want states to have the right. The only one that is more lenient towards it is Obama, but I still think Paul is better. If it can't be Paul, which it won't, then I'll support Obama. So, looks like I'm supporting Obama.