Transgender in Disney

Arya Stark · 01-29-2012, 02:21 PM

I say what I feel. And Il Duce. Don't try to call me honey like you trying to be all condescending and ****.

Above · 01-29-2012, 07:53 PM

Uh, well you're entitled to your own opinion then.

Tristesse · 01-31-2012, 03:52 PM

I think including transgender characters in Disney films is only going to further confuse children who, as children, are generally confused about identity. Let them come across those ideas later in life, when they can make decisions without having been influenced that they are the norm from an early age.

Paedantic Basterd · 01-31-2012, 06:39 PM

I think we're putting too much adult thought into the implications for children. Children don't think like we do. If they see a boy playing with a doll or wearing a skirt, the answer is literally as simple as "He's a boy that wants to be a girl."

Children are much more accepting of these concepts than we, people who've been shaped for decades by society are. Childhood is not a confusing age. I don't think many children question their identities at that age. The fact that they're just kids I think is a good reason to introduce them to these new concepts, before their minds are made biased by society.

Tristesse · 02-01-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I think we're putting too much adult thought into the implications for children. Children don't think like we do. If they see a boy playing with a doll or wearing a skirt, the answer is literally as simple as "He's a boy that wants to be a girl."

Children are much more accepting of these concepts than we, people who've been shaped for decades by society are. Childhood is not a confusing age. I don't think many children question their identities at that age. The fact that they're just kids I think is a good reason to introduce them to these new concepts, before their minds are made biased by society.

As a child, I speak for us all. We are confused. So very, very confused.

But I get what you mean. Society is to blame for a lot of the issues that individual people have. Although if who we are is the sum of our experiences (the slogan from a dating website I think) then surely having more experience of issues like transgender is going to influence them more than those who have never even considered the idea?

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 02-01-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I think we're putting too much adult thought into the implications for children. Children don't think like we do. If they see a boy playing with a doll or wearing a skirt, the answer is literally as simple as "He's a boy that wants to be a girl."

Children are much more accepting of these concepts than we, people who've been shaped for decades by society are. Childhood is not a confusing age. I don't think many children question their identities at that age. The fact that they're just kids I think is a good reason to introduce them to these new concepts, before their minds are made biased by society.

In some respects I agree with you, but just no directly being introduced to Disney so blatantly. I understand there are underlying indications of transgenders in the Disney movies but I think a better up bringing with an education from all sides will do far more for children's understanding of others than just flicking it in the odd Disney movie. Not only that, it is a sensitive issue for some parents who would end up banning kids watching Disney full stop if they did incorporate such a thing. That's counterproductive.

To sum up, I think if we educate society and the parents, the children will follow the lead.

Paedantic Basterd · 02-01-2012, 11:24 PM

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 02-01-2012, 11:33 PM

Beautiful. Very appropriate. Wish it could really get through peoples heads.

hip hop bunny hop · 02-02-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I think we're putting too much adult thought into the implications for children. Children don't think like we do. If they see a boy playing with a doll or wearing a skirt, the answer is literally as simple as "He's a boy that wants to be a girl."

Children are much more accepting of these concepts than we, people who've been shaped for decades by society are. Childhood is not a confusing age. I don't think many children question their identities at that age. The fact that they're just kids I think is a good reason to introduce them to these new concepts, before their minds are made biased by society.

Do you've any proof that the "innate" tendency is to be accepting of this behavior?

Above · 02-03-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Do you've any proof that the "innate" tendency is to be accepting of this behavior?

Common decency?

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Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	Beautiful. Very appropriate. Wish it could really get through peoples heads. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

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Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	I think we're putting too much adult thought into the implications for children. Children don't think like we do. If they see a boy playing with a doll or wearing a skirt, the answer is literally as simple as "He's a boy that wants to be a girl." Children are much more accepting of these concepts than we, people who've been shaped for decades by society are. Childhood is not a confusing age. I don't think many children question their identities at that age. The fact that they're just kids I think is a good reason to introduce them to these new concepts, before their minds are made biased by society.

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