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Freebase Dali 12-31-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1138819)
Happy to clarify, as this is where most of the confusion lies.

I don't consider myself female because I "fit the profile" of a woman. Gender roles need to go, which might seem hypocritical for me of all people to say this, but hear me out (it may get TMI though). In the psychological level, I am a woman, but not because I want to fit 'girly' stereotypes. I just am, you know? The way you're born with a sense of male-ness (for lack of a better word), I feel female in that sense. For the physical side, I feel as though my sex organs aren't what I should have, and I feel great discomfort dealing with the fact that I don't have breasts or a vagina.

Going off on a tangent here; hormone therapy is really great. It redistributes fat to the breasts and hips and butt so you get a natural pair of breasts and figure etc. Surgery is very sophisticated too. They turn the tip of the penis into a clitoris and you experience female orgasms (I warned this would be TMI, haha). Hoped this answered your questions.

Or you can drink a lot of beer and not exercise. My breasts are getting supple and my curves pretty hot for a white dude.

Howard the Duck 01-01-2012 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Above (Post 1138819)
Happy to clarify, as this is where most of the confusion lies.

I don't consider myself female because I "fit the profile" of a woman. Gender roles need to go, which might seem hypocritical for me of all people to say this, but hear me out (it may get TMI though). In the psychological level, I am a woman, but not because I want to fit 'girly' stereotypes. I just am, you know? The way you're born with a sense of male-ness (for lack of a better word), I feel female in that sense. For the physical side, I feel as though my sex organs aren't what I should have, and I feel great discomfort dealing with the fact that I don't have breasts or a vagina.

Going off on a tangent here; hormone therapy is really great. It redistributes fat to the breasts and hips and butt so you get a natural pair of breasts and figure etc. Surgery is very sophisticated too. They turn the tip of the penis into a clitoris and you experience female orgasms (I warned this would be TMI, haha). Hoped this answered your questions.

i think that's basically what gender diaspora is all about

i dated a transsexual

Above 01-01-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1138879)
Or you can drink a lot of beer and not exercise. My breasts are getting supple and my curves pretty hot for a white dude.

Tits or gtfo :V

hip hop bunny hop 01-01-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1138814)
Unfortunately for you, I don't care how society views me.

You actually seem to care an awful lot about how society views you:

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1138086)
The people who pick on me for my gender should be punished. What you are encouraging is institutionalized sexism and transphobia. It's no different than saying I should change schools because the head doesn't like transgendered people.

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1132915)
I'm transgendered, and in several states I can get fired for being so, and I wouldn't be able to do a damn thing about it. I live in UK, but it doesn't make much difference. It's very difficult for me to hold customer service jobs because of this. Of course they'd never actually say it's because of me being transgendered. They disguise it with other bullshit reasons.

...etc.

To wager a guess; you feel rejected, so you've created a post hoc justification for your perceived rejection. Shakespeare has a relevant quote (link)

Above 01-01-2012 01:30 PM

You're boring.

RVCA 01-02-2012 11:31 PM

I find him fascinating. I still can't tell if he genuinely holds the views he espouses or if he's just permanently a devil's advocate.

Howard the Duck 01-02-2012 11:37 PM

^^or maybe that he's just bored and this "persona" is his way of having fun

Stephen 01-04-2012 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1138819)
In the psychological level, I am a woman, but not because I want to fit 'girly' stereotypes. I just am, you know? The way you're born with a sense of male-ness (for lack of a better word), I feel female in that sense. For the physical side, I feel as though my sex organs aren't what I should have, and I feel great discomfort dealing with the fact that I don't have breasts or a vagina.

Sounds a lot like body dysmorphia. I can't imagine a Disney character amputating healthy limbs. While I sympathise personally with the mental anguish that this must cause I am also uncomfortable with the idea of normalising a mental disorder as a lifestyle choice.

Just out of interest what would be the effect of taking male hormones? Would that mitigate the feeling of being the wrong gender?

FETCHER. 01-04-2012 05:39 AM

I don't know who it was but they said something along the lines of causing confusion to children and they really wouldn't understand until they were a bit older. I don't see why it has to be put in disney films. Its not like its nessesary for them to know. Many people know their not 'normal' at very young ages or want to be of opposite sexes at young ages, I don't see the harm in allowing them to do what they want, but there's no real reason that transgender transitions should be showed by disney.

TheBig3 01-04-2012 07:48 AM

I don't get this. Whats the point of putting a transgendered child into a Disney film? If you have a transgendered child, or think you do, and you don't want them to be persecuted, move out of the Bible belt where those anti-science nutbags thing its a curable thing.

Disney isn't going to help you.


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