God is in your mind?

Bloozcrooz · 01-08-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by seekn4

If people would actually study the bible for themselves instead of just thinking the "religous" interpretations are what Jesus meant, you will see a whole different story. For example, the jesus doesn't say drinking, cussing, fuc####, are sins he said judging someone else for doing that **** is. Your spirit tells you that cause when you are judging someone else you feel angry, irritated, etc. Just one more example I have studied all of the spiritual texts from every culture for the better part of the last decade, but the bible more intensely than the others and nowhere in the bible does it say heaven is after you die. That should make most of you want to see for yourself what Jesus said before jumping to any conclusions. I am not at all saying there isn't life after physical death, I had a near death experience and I know for a fact that our consciousness doesn't stop even when our body quits. But all a true Christian is is a nonjudgemental, forgiving, loving person and yes, you can still, drink, cuss, have sex, gamble, be gay, and still love thy neighbor as yourself. Here is all Jesus said to do, there are only 2 laws. 1... Love thy lord thy God with all thy heart all thy mind and soul. 2... Love thy neighbor as yourself. THAT IS IT. Any other law or rule was added by man (religion). Jesus hung out with drunks and hookers for Christ's sake(pardon the pun)and he didn't even condemn the prostitute. From my searching I have found the closest religion in the world to true Christianity is Buddhism. But Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion. Peace!

Uhhh what? The 10 commandments from the first testement still apply and all the crap that was written by apostles for "God" througout the bible does too. If you believe some of their horse **** you have to believe all of it dude. The only thing Jesus really did was make it easier for man to go to heaven supposedly cause before him it was next to impossible almost from what I gather. Yes there are certain circimstances in which it may be ok to partake in some things. For instance it says theres nothing wrong with drinking just as long as you dont get drunk. Point is the way christianity is represesented by a lot of people now days, its no suprise why they catch a lot of crap from the social media and others. But it just doesn't matter to them cause I think a lot of them in their own way think of themselves in such a way that nothing they do will get them shunned from going to heaven. So their own interpretation and set of moral codes and standards is what they will continue to live by. Best of luck with that but if there does turn out to be a heaven and hell, I'll be biting the sides of my cheeks to keep from laughing when Gods sends you to where I'll be condemed too.

seekn4 · 01-08-2013, 06:32 PM

Blooz, come on it is obvious you have never studied the scriptures for yourself. In the bible there was only one apostle and that was Paul formerly named Saul in the new testiment. And he is the one who explains what the meaning of the new testiment was. I could throw scriptures around all day cause I know them all but that would be fruitless. All the scriptures from around the world say God is UNCONDITIONAL love, do you fully understand what that means? If there was a heaven and hell after you die what kind of bull sh## god would send you to hell because you got drunk or had sex I would tell that God to go f#ck himself. Acording to your belief you can be a good person, feed the poor, help everyone you come in contact with and God going to send you to hell because you got drunk, hahahahahaha! Jesus got crucified next to a thief and Jesus told him he would be with him in paradise today. The new testiment even says the the law of Moses is no more, it is all summed up in love thy neighbor as yourself. And you don't need the bible to understand God, we are born with his spirit, and now we have realtime guidance..... Positive emotions and negative emotions. Positive feels good and negative doesn't.
If you lived by the old testament you would have to stone prostitutes to death. Jesus had the mind of God and unconditional love for everyone. You need to come out of the religious interpretation of the bible there is no peace there. Start thinking for yourself, and trust in yourself. You ever notice that something doesn't feel right about the religious interpretation of God that live by law. Like Paul said " if righteousness come by law Christ is dead in vain"

Bloozcrooz · 01-08-2013, 07:13 PM

If your allowed to behave like that then why dont they just serve booze, hookers, and have Catt Williams give the sermons on sunday morning? I dont think thats the idea behind it either. Whats suppose to set them apart is living as christ like as possible since he was without sin. Since were all human and incapable of this, this was why jesus was sent to the cross to die for our sins yes? At the same time continuing to make concious decisions to indulge in the sins of the world is not what christianity really intended is it? Wheres the incentive for christians to behave any differently...well I guess heaven. I guess what I should ask is where is their incentive not to behave like that? That answer being hell, yes? Why would there even be a hell just for the ones who choose not to believe?

seekn4 · 01-08-2013, 07:34 PM

Let me ask you this, who am I hurting if I drink on occasion or gamble or have sex? We are all born with the knowlege that I should be able to do whatever I want as long as I'm not hurting anyone. I don't force anyone to do anything against their will. Living by the religious laws written by man will keep you judgemental, angry and feeling guilt. Its not about what you are doing on the outside its about how you are feeling on the inside, Jesus said if you hate you have commited murder in god eyes, if you lust after another woman in your heart you have already committed adultery. You see its about geting rid of negative emotion. However it says if you esteem something to be unclean to you it is and to not judge anyone else for doing what they do. So if you believe what you said is sin, then you are entitled too but don't judge anyone else. In the bible it only said that 2 kinds of people go to "hell" and that is liars, and hypocrites. And that is it. If you think you are any different than who or what you despise than you are lying to yourself and are a hypocrite for judging, you see how it works. Quit casting stones and clean up your own emotions until you love everyone and everything. Then you will know what Jesus speaks of.

Bloozcrooz · 01-08-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by seekn4

Let me ask you this, who am I hurting if I drink on occasion or gamble or have sex? We are all born with the knowlege that I should be able to do whatever I want as long as I'm not hurting anyone. I don't force anyone to do anything against their will. Living by the religious laws written by man will keep you judgemental, angry and feeling guilt. Its not about what you are doing on the outside its about how you are feeling on the inside, Jesus said if you hate you have commited murder in god eyes, if you lust after another woman in your heart you have already committed adultery. You see its about geting rid of negative emotion. However it says if you esteem something to be unclean to you it is and to not judge anyone else for doing what they do. So if you believe what you said is sin, then you are entitled too but don't judge anyone else. In the bible it only said that 2 kinds of people go to "hell" and that is liars, and hypocrites. And that is it. If you think you are any different than who or what you despise than you are lying to yourself and are a hypocrite for judging, you see how it works. Quit casting stones and clean up your own emotions until you love everyone and everything. Then you will know what Jesus speaks of.

I don't believe in it and I or anyone for that matter can be just as capable as being a good person if not better than most christians. Assuming that there is a place such as hell though for hypocrites and liars, that would be a large percentage of the christians I know or have encountered. Which is what my original point was to begin with. I'm not perfect but I'm not hiding behind a religion claiming to be either. Banking on just faith alone to get me to a mansion of gold in the after life for a lifetime of serving christ and asking for forgiveness. I would expect to see a lil diferent representation from so many christians, and not just about the popular crisis occuring in the world. But I've heard before that every lost soul should be reached out to and those who have strayed to come back. Yes these types of good works are practiced by some and they live the lives of what I would consider model christians. But I've also seen lots of judgment, criticism, and hypocracy come from chistianity as well. Of course if thats the way a lot of them want to be fine its not my religion anyway, but when they wonder why the media and a lot of the population mock them its no wonder. Oh and to answer your question you can drink, gamble, and have sex all you want to I dont care your not hurting me, but I'm not "God". Its whatever man believe what ya want, thats the beauty of freedom.

seekn4 · 01-08-2013, 08:30 PM

I'm just saying that the worldly interpretation of what a Christian is flawed it is all about not judging others cause none of us are perfect, like it says in the bible "no man is above sin, no not one" so now it has to be all about forgiveness, forgiveness brings peace to the soul and allows love to come in. Even Jesus got pissed and went into a church and flipped over tables. The temple of God is inside you, not a building made with hands, not churches. God said he would give peace to those who seek it and not to those who dont. However it doesn't feel good to hate religion so all we can do is choose to see only the good that they do cause that is what we want people to do to us. That is what it means to love thy neighbor as yourself, to choose to see just the best in people. That is what a true christion does. And I don't drink but I can do that even when I'm drunk couldn't i?

Bloozcrooz · 01-08-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by seekn4

I'm just saying that the worldly interpretation of what a Christian is flawed it is all about not judging others cause none of us are perfect, like it says in the bible "no man is above sin, no not one" so now it has to be all about forgiveness, forgiveness brings peace to the soul and allows love to come in. Even Jesus got pissed and went into a church and flipped over tables. The temple of God is inside you, not a building made with hands, not churches. God said he would give peace to those who seek it and not to those who dont. However it doesn't feel good to hate religion so all we can do is choose to see only the good that they do cause that is what we want people to do to us. That is what it means to love thy neighbor as yourself, to choose to see just the best in people. That is what a true christion does. And I don't drink but I can do that even when I'm drunk couldn't i?

Do whatever you wish man its a free country.

seekn4 · 01-08-2013, 09:18 PM

I just wish people would understand that what the bible called sin is negative emotions that is the only thing that we can do anything about, our emotions are our guidance If we needed a book to know what is right that wouldnt be fair and That would mean that the spirit of God isn't inside everyone.

Bloozcrooz · 01-08-2013, 09:18 PM

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 01-08-2013, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

If your allowed to behave like that then why dont they just serve booze, hookers, and have Catt Williams give the sermons on sunday morning? I dont think thats the idea behind it either. Whats suppose to set them apart is living as christ like as possible since he was without sin. Since were all human and incapable of this, this was why jesus was sent to the cross to die for our sins yes? At the same time continuing to make concious decisions to indulge in the sins of the world is not what christianity really intended is it? Wheres the incentive for christians to behave any differently...well I guess heaven. I guess what I should ask is where is their incentive not to behave like that? That answer being hell, yes? Why would there even be a hell just for the ones who choose not to believe?

Actually, the church are the ones that say you shouldn't drink/have sex before marriage/be a hooker. Why would you believe them over scripture?

01-08-2013, 06:32 PM	#752 (permalink)
seekn4 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: illinois Posts: 142	Blooz, come on it is obvious you have never studied the scriptures for yourself. In the bible there was only one apostle and that was Paul formerly named Saul in the new testiment. And he is the one who explains what the meaning of the new testiment was. I could throw scriptures around all day cause I know them all but that would be fruitless. All the scriptures from around the world say God is UNCONDITIONAL love, do you fully understand what that means? If there was a heaven and hell after you die what kind of bull sh## god would send you to hell because you got drunk or had sex I would tell that God to go f#ck himself. Acording to your belief you can be a good person, feed the poor, help everyone you come in contact with and God going to send you to hell because you got drunk, hahahahahaha! Jesus got crucified next to a thief and Jesus told him he would be with him in paradise today. The new testiment even says the the law of Moses is no more, it is all summed up in love thy neighbor as yourself. And you don't need the bible to understand God, we are born with his spirit, and now we have realtime guidance..... Positive emotions and negative emotions. Positive feels good and negative doesn't. If you lived by the old testament you would have to stone prostitutes to death. Jesus had the mind of God and unconditional love for everyone. You need to come out of the religious interpretation of the bible there is no peace there. Start thinking for yourself, and trust in yourself. You ever notice that something doesn't feel right about the religious interpretation of God that live by law. Like Paul said " if righteousness come by law Christ is dead in vain" Last edited by seekn4; 01-08-2013 at 07:12 PM.

01-08-2013, 07:34 PM	#754 (permalink)
seekn4 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: illinois Posts: 142	Let me ask you this, who am I hurting if I drink on occasion or gamble or have sex? We are all born with the knowlege that I should be able to do whatever I want as long as I'm not hurting anyone. I don't force anyone to do anything against their will. Living by the religious laws written by man will keep you judgemental, angry and feeling guilt. Its not about what you are doing on the outside its about how you are feeling on the inside, Jesus said if you hate you have commited murder in god eyes, if you lust after another woman in your heart you have already committed adultery. You see its about geting rid of negative emotion. However it says if you esteem something to be unclean to you it is and to not judge anyone else for doing what they do. So if you believe what you said is sin, then you are entitled too but don't judge anyone else. In the bible it only said that 2 kinds of people go to "hell" and that is liars, and hypocrites. And that is it. If you think you are any different than who or what you despise than you are lying to yourself and are a hypocrite for judging, you see how it works. Quit casting stones and clean up your own emotions until you love everyone and everything. Then you will know what Jesus speaks of.

01-08-2013, 08:30 PM	#756 (permalink)
seekn4 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: illinois Posts: 142	I'm just saying that the worldly interpretation of what a Christian is flawed it is all about not judging others cause none of us are perfect, like it says in the bible "no man is above sin, no not one" so now it has to be all about forgiveness, forgiveness brings peace to the soul and allows love to come in. Even Jesus got pissed and went into a church and flipped over tables. The temple of God is inside you, not a building made with hands, not churches. God said he would give peace to those who seek it and not to those who dont. However it doesn't feel good to hate religion so all we can do is choose to see only the good that they do cause that is what we want people to do to us. That is what it means to love thy neighbor as yourself, to choose to see just the best in people. That is what a true christion does. And I don't drink but I can do that even when I'm drunk couldn't i?

01-08-2013, 09:18 PM	#758 (permalink)
seekn4 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: illinois Posts: 142	I just wish people would understand that what the bible called sin is negative emotions that is the only thing that we can do anything about, our emotions are our guidance If we needed a book to know what is right that wouldnt be fair and That would mean that the spirit of God isn't inside everyone.