God is in your mind?

blastingas10 · 12-18-2012, 06:13 PM

I'm dealing with the loss of a truly beloved one right now. It's changing me at my very core, it's changing the way I view the world. I can't stop thinking about it. I have to fight to hold back the tears at work.

And the reason im saying this here is because the one thing that can bring me happiness in this time is thinking that I can see my loved one again, someday. And just thinking about it makes me so happy that it makes me cry. This is no scientific attempt to prove anything, but I must say that I really don't give a **** what science or anyone else says about this subject. I'm not saying there is a god or a heaven, but if thinking that I can see all my loved ones again someday helps me to deal with lifes biggest tragedy, then that's what I'm going to do. I don't care if its not intellectually fruitful.

Stephen · 12-18-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

I'm dealing with the loss of a truly beloved one right now. It's changing me at my very core, it's changing the way I view the world. I can't stop thinking about it. I have to fight to hold back the tears at work.

And the reason im saying this here is because the one thing that can bring me happiness in this time is thinking that I can see my loved one again, someday. And just thinking about it makes me so happy that it makes me cry. This is no scientific attempt to prove anything, but I must say that I really don't give a **** what science or anyone else says about this subject. I'm not saying there is a god or a heaven, but if thinking that I can see all my loved ones again someday helps me to deal with lifes biggest tragedy, then that's what I'm going to do. I don't care if its not intellectually fruitful.

So sorry to hear of your loss Blastingas.

Neapolitan · 12-19-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

I'm dealing with the loss of a truly beloved one right now. It's changing me at my very core, it's changing the way I view the world. I can't stop thinking about it. I have to fight to hold back the tears at work.

And the reason im saying this here is because the one thing that can bring me happiness in this time is thinking that I can see my loved one again, someday. And just thinking about it makes me so happy that it makes me cry. This is no scientific attempt to prove anything, but I must say that I really don't give a **** what science or anyone else says about this subject. I'm not saying there is a god or a heaven, but if thinking that I can see all my loved ones again someday helps me to deal with lifes biggest tragedy, then that's what I'm going to do. I don't care if its not intellectually fruitful.

Gastan, my sincere condolences to you.

Bloozcrooz · 01-04-2013, 08:29 AM

A different conversation triggered some thoughts on a topic I've been wanting to share my 2 cents on. Its no wonder why Christians catch such a bad rap and dont get me wrong I don't hate them. I'm also not so stupid as to think the entirety of Christianity can be judged on just a few instances. There are the truly devoted and truly genuine christians who give it their all to live by and practice what they preach. However it seems the majority just like the idea of it, and just hope to keep their own set of moral standards and beliefs. Hoping one day they will still enter the kindom of heaven cause no matter what they have done, thought, or lived and acted like during their time on earth they are saved cause they truly believe Jesus died on a cross for their sins. Man I'm sorry but BULL...EFFIN....****. I use to even believe in this crap till a couple years ago. The majority of these people are drinking, cussing, screwing around, gambling, along with countless other "sins" that the so called "lost" indulge in all the time. But because they are only human and prone to mistakes forgiveness shall truly come their way cause they have faith? How the hell did I ever buy into this mess is beyond me and I guess most my life I just never questioned it and was to young to see the corruptness and hypocrasy. I hear all the time hateful things come from these peoples mouths who are suppose to be reaching out in kindness to the "lost." When that school shooting happened in CT and afterwards there were some asking "where God was" during this time of tradgedy. Some of the responses I heard come out of the mouths of so called Christians was down right hateful and no different than the kind of attitude I hear from prisoners on lock raw shows. When Hurricane Sandy happened, how that was a result of being Godless and they should reap what they sow as if they brought it on themselves and everyone affected by the hurricane was a satanic paegan and deserved it? That the "Jersey Shore" lifestyle thats on T.V. sets the standard to what the whole area lives by? What the hell kind of ****ed up logic and way of thinking is this for a suppose to be caring, loving group of god fearing people? I know plenty of people who are much better people who aren't a part of any religion. Then the response to that is..."well being a good person wont get you into heaven...you have to be washed in the blood of Jesus" WTF? Is that a free pass to get to act however the hell you want but still get a get outta going to hell free card cause you believe that horse ****? Live by example and practice what you preach and maybe you wouldn't be losing a country that was founded upon your beliefs. Ever think of that? Stop posting about drinking massive amounts of alcohol and church on Sunday if you want to be taken seriously. Stop talking about who deserves death and eternal damnation cause from what I gathered "God" himself was the only one in a position to judge. And I don want to hear this crap about well thats him speaking through you. Again I dont mean to imply that Christianity as a whole is corrupt cause I have met some really really good Christian people who walked the walk. Then you see the lot who conduct themselves in a testy college frat boy sarcastic kind of manner. And thats being being put in a gentle way, and then wonder why so many people blame them or are so quick to call them out. Well your the ones who are judging everyone else so do you think thats not opening the door for you yourself to be judged by your actions twice as harsh? Of course they are no different from us and respond to most instances with harshness or just no logical response at all other than "god is good and he is my god" Lol. Yeah we know...very well played thought out. You give the face of your religion pimples and acne. Go back to beer, taunting, hateful, pretentious, hypocrasy and just point fingers at everyone else and cover up all your short comings. Cause you know what.."your washed in the blood of Jesus" so its all good. I feel bad for the ones who actually give their religion their all and invest themselves into doing good works. I actually admire that even though I dont believe in God cause its a good way to be. The idea of religion is great but the reality of how it actually is, is pathetic. But hey who am I to judge...keep if it gives you piece of mind.

verdi · 01-04-2013, 08:34 AM

"I feel bad for the ones who actually give their religion their all and invest themselves into doing good works."

I agree with some of what you say, Blooz. However, if they do good things in the name of religion and feel good about themselves, how is that a bad thing? Why would you feel bad for them?

Bloozcrooz · 01-04-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by verdi

"I feel bad for the ones who actually give their religion their all and invest themselves into doing good works."

I agree with some of what you say, Blooz. However, if they do good things in the name of religion and feel good about themselves, how is that a bad thing? Why would you feel bad for them?

Thats not a bad thing at all. I feel bad for them cause so many others almost just make a mockery of their own religion, and I'm sure its embarassing to the ones who really try. Thats what I meant by that.

seekn4 · 01-04-2013, 08:26 PM

If people would actually study the bible for themselves instead of just thinking the "religous" interpretations are what Jesus meant, you will see a whole different story. For example, the jesus doesn't say drinking, cussing, fuc####, are sins he said judging someone else for doing that **** is. Your spirit tells you that cause when you are judging someone else you feel angry, irritated, etc. Just one more example I have studied all of the spiritual texts from every culture for the better part of the last decade, but the bible more intensely than the others and nowhere in the bible does it say heaven is after you die. That should make most of you want to see for yourself what Jesus said before jumping to any conclusions. I am not at all saying there isn't life after physical death, I had a near death experience and I know for a fact that our consciousness doesn't stop even when our body quits. But all a true Christian is is a nonjudgemental, forgiving, loving person and yes, you can still, drink, cuss, have sex, gamble, be gay, and still love thy neighbor as yourself. Here is all Jesus said to do, there are only 2 laws. 1... Love thy lord thy God with all thy heart all thy mind and soul. 2... Love thy neighbor as yourself. THAT IS IT. Any other law or rule was added by man (religion). Jesus hung out with drunks and hookers for Christ's sake(pardon the pun)and he didn't even condemn the prostitute. From my searching I have found the closest religion in the world to true Christianity is Buddhism. But Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion. Peace!

verdi · 01-05-2013, 02:09 AM

seekn4, you make several good points, and I agree with you in many respects. But I wonder, you can't expect an atheist to really read the bible and study jesus by himself, can you?
I do understand that all you're asking for is more respect, though.

seekn4 · 01-05-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by verdi

seekn4, you make several good points, and I agree with you in many respects. But I wonder, you can't expect an atheist to really read the bible and study jesus by himself, can you?
I do understand that all you're asking for is more respect, though.

You are right, but I think that most people that are atheists are because their perceptions of God are based on religions interpretations of God and who God is and not the real God. I'm not really asking for respect its just there are people that claim to be logical and don't see for themselves the other side of the argument before making a decision, they will go to Wikipedia or latch onto some opinion they heard on tv and never see for themselves so they know for sure what is real and what isn't. Its just sad to me that most do go thru this life blinded because of their own egos. If these people were on trial for their life you bet they would want the jury to truely see their side of the argument before making a decision. And where us some truth to what blooz said, but in the bible, it says God is LOVE and yes a great deal of Christians use their interpretation of Gods word to justify their hate and that is bull****, we don't need the bible to know God, Gods spirit is within every human but we have to choose to follow it, our spirit wants to love and appreciate, you know that cause those are the best feeling emotions our body can produce, but ego, pride get in the way of that, most people argue in their mind trying to justify their anger instead of just wanting to feel good and following your spirit/heart. All emotions are felt in your heart.

The Batlord · 01-05-2013, 10:45 AM

^^^

You're looking at it wrong. I'm not choosing between opposing sides of an argument. I'm taking up the logical position of waiting for sufficient evidence before I believe in something. So long as all I get is nonsense, inconclusive "evidence", and hearsay, I'm not gonna change my position. If that means that I'm missing out on something, then, oh well.

01-04-2013, 08:26 PM	#737 (permalink)
seekn4 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: illinois Posts: 142	If people would actually study the bible for themselves instead of just thinking the "religous" interpretations are what Jesus meant, you will see a whole different story. For example, the jesus doesn't say drinking, cussing, fuc####, are sins he said judging someone else for doing that **** is. Your spirit tells you that cause when you are judging someone else you feel angry, irritated, etc. Just one more example I have studied all of the spiritual texts from every culture for the better part of the last decade, but the bible more intensely than the others and nowhere in the bible does it say heaven is after you die. That should make most of you want to see for yourself what Jesus said before jumping to any conclusions. I am not at all saying there isn't life after physical death, I had a near death experience and I know for a fact that our consciousness doesn't stop even when our body quits. But all a true Christian is is a nonjudgemental, forgiving, loving person and yes, you can still, drink, cuss, have sex, gamble, be gay, and still love thy neighbor as yourself. Here is all Jesus said to do, there are only 2 laws. 1... Love thy lord thy God with all thy heart all thy mind and soul. 2... Love thy neighbor as yourself. THAT IS IT. Any other law or rule was added by man (religion). Jesus hung out with drunks and hookers for Christ's sake(pardon the pun)and he didn't even condemn the prostitute. From my searching I have found the closest religion in the world to true Christianity is Buddhism. But Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion. Peace! Last edited by seekn4; 01-04-2013 at 08:39 PM.

12-18-2012, 06:13 PM	#731 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	I'm dealing with the loss of a truly beloved one right now. It's changing me at my very core, it's changing the way I view the world. I can't stop thinking about it. I have to fight to hold back the tears at work. And the reason im saying this here is because the one thing that can bring me happiness in this time is thinking that I can see my loved one again, someday. And just thinking about it makes me so happy that it makes me cry. This is no scientific attempt to prove anything, but I must say that I really don't give a **** what science or anyone else says about this subject. I'm not saying there is a god or a heaven, but if thinking that I can see all my loved ones again someday helps me to deal with lifes biggest tragedy, then that's what I'm going to do. I don't care if its not intellectually fruitful.

01-04-2013, 08:34 AM	#735 (permalink)
verdi Groupie Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 44	"I feel bad for the ones who actually give their religion their all and invest themselves into doing good works." I agree with some of what you say, Blooz. However, if they do good things in the name of religion and feel good about themselves, how is that a bad thing? Why would you feel bad for them?

01-05-2013, 02:09 AM	#738 (permalink)
verdi Groupie Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 44	seekn4, you make several good points, and I agree with you in many respects. But I wonder, you can't expect an atheist to really read the bible and study jesus by himself, can you? I do understand that all you're asking for is more respect, though.