God is in your mind?

Phantom Limb · 11-26-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by seekn4

I really have no desire to read all of your babble but I did read the first paragraph, you only listen to skeptics so that is all you know, and I'm sure some have faked it however some are real, one was locked in a room for 9 days in a hospital room by people just like you, and recorded it all and they can't explain it and are baffled, there is your science and you refuse to believe it, that was a controlled experiment yet you dismiss it cause again you will have to admit you are wrong.
WHY CAN'T YOU ADMIT THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND AND CAN'T EXPLAIN? I am sure the people on this forum are sick of your arrogance, can I get an amen!

Dude, you need to take some philosophy and psychology classes.

seekn4 · 11-26-2012, 09:45 PM

I have spent many years studying both those subjects, every sect from every culture in philosophy/spirituality and psychology and spirituality are the same thing, and I didn't form any opinions until I heard and more importantly understood where everyone was coming from.

**Janszoon** · 11-26-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by seekn4

I have spent many years studying both those subjects, every sect from every culture in philosophy/spirituality and psychology and spirituality are the same thing, and I didn't form any opinions until I heard and more importantly understood where everyone was coming from.

Guybrush · 11-26-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by seekn4

Tore, you said that you would be glad to study any info I might have but I believe we tried that in march, and here is what happened, I told you to go to you tube and check out "gregg Braden the language of the divine matrix" it is 4 hrs long and you said you watched a few min and stated that he talked too slow and disregarded him as a con artists, how can you retort rationally, and intelligently if you won't even hear all of the evidence you are trying to contradict, you see how your judgements will keep you blinded? fyi he was talking slow cause the seminar was in italy and what he said had to be translated to Italian. And really there is no sense watching it if you aren't open to the possibly that he is right or else your mind will find one thing you don't agree with (and most likely just cause you don't understand) and your brain will focus on that and tune out everything else, you don't start to learn until you have the ability to observe without judgement. If you dismiss someone that dedicated their life to research on a subject cause they talk slow there is no sense in looking anymore, you already know all you will ever know.

Gods, you're the 4-hours video guy. I thought your nick was familiar!

Face · 11-27-2012, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by seekn4

Sorry face but it has been proven. But you can't find evidence you are not looking for! What you seek you will find, if you are looking for evidence that it is not possible, you will find it, if you are looking for evidence it is possible you will find it too, which is the case with nearly every subject on this planet. Every reality is out there you get to choose which one you live in...

.... I have followed logic to its limit and about went insane and at the end logic will tell you to follow your how you feel and quit thinking.

You chose want you wanted, and went to look for anything that could fit your ideal, ignoring anything that might get in the way. You may be following something, but it's not logic.

I think I'll leave it at that.

seekn4 · 11-27-2012, 07:58 AM

I know it looks like that but no, I have researched all of this with the same skepticism most of you on this thread share and there is just too much to support it. There is enough evidence to where you can't say its not possible. Go on you tube and check out the documentaries on the "buddha boy", " old man did not eat or drink for 70 years"
I did not set out to prove anything, just to find out what is out there.
There is a man that isn't effected by electricity, he hooked himself up to a 30 amp fuse and it doesn't hurt him.
There is more out there than we were taught in school.
There are new things being discovered everyday and it seems everyone has already formed opinions without seeing everything first. Not very logical.
If anyone has read the bible, in the old testament it said Moses split a rock and water came out to give the Israelites water, and an archaeologist named Ron Wyatt followed the exodus trail that they took and found that rock, on the top of a mountain, it is 7 stories tall and it looks like it was split down the middle and you can tell that water flowed from it for awhile there is erosion that a 5 year old can see, go on you tube and check it out, see for yourself , the video doesn't lie. When you see the evidence your brain won't allow you to not believe its possible.
There are ancient Sumerian text 5000 YEARS OLD that describe coming into our solar system on a craft, also described what every planet looked like, color and everything and described what the earth looked like from the outside. And modern science didn't know what the earth looked like until the last century. Everyone might want to do some reading/watching of Zacharia Sitchens work, what modern science has just found out recently, has been known for 1000s of years. I can't believe nobody has seen this stuff, its like the only information most people have is what are in high school text books. Or the random number generator experiments, they have proven that a person's intention can effect the outcome of what a machine does. The "what the bleep do we know/down the rabbit hole" series on you tube explains these experiments and then you can take them and research them further. If yall watch the above stated videos and check out "the language of the divine matrix"
It will be enough to get you started and give you a base to start researching.
I wish everyone would refrain from speculating until you have seen all of this and make an educated decision.
If you stay one step in front of science you are a genius if you stay 2 steps infront you are a crackpot.
And I know tore won't, he will just go to Wikipedia and find the skeptics view point and pass it off as his own opinion without seeing for himself. I know its too much work for most to find the truth. You have to be humble to learn anything new.
And I know it sounds like I'm attacking you bro, but I'm not, I say all this with a smile on my face, and love in my heart!
On another note I don't believe that whoever doesn't believe what I believe is stupid or an idiot, nothing could be further from the truth, everyone has the right to believe what they choose.

The Batlord · 11-27-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Going with the explanation that requires less new assumptions, and less thought doesn't seem to be a very fruitful way of looking at things. Sure, it may lead to the most plausible answer but if this is how we always approached the mysteries of our world then I don't think we would have come as far as we have. All of the revolutionary thinkers of the past would have never been.

It's the only way to think logically. You assume the most logical explanation, and then move on from there with the scientific method. If the most logical explanation ISN'T the correct explanation, then the scientific method should show that. Anything else is just a recipe for self deception.

Necromancer · 11-27-2012, 10:25 AM

Religion is for the weak minded.

seekn4 · 11-27-2012, 10:38 AM

I don't believe in religion either, religion divides, love unites and negative emotions are for the weak minded, just cause I speak of the bible and ancient texts doesn't mean I'm religious, that is no different than reading a history book. And not having an opinion that isn't fed to you in school is weak minded too, wouldn't you agree? Incase you haven't noticed in history, the worlds consensus has always been proved incomplete by the next generation, what makes you think they have it all figured out now? The scientific consensus at one time thought the world was flat, and if you believe the worlds consensus is 100% accurate now you will be left in the dust just like the flat landers. It's not even logical to believe that the consensus is right, hasn't history proved that?
If everyone believed just what we are taught in school, there would be no new discoveries would there, if everyone thought like the majority of people on this thread the world would never evolve past what you see today, so thank God there are people who think for themselves. And believe nothing is impossible. If yall were alive 80 years ago, you would be the people who laughed at people that said we can go to space and you would have been proved wrong. Can't you see you share the same mentality as those people, irrational. In light of how the world has progressed in the last 100 year's isn't it illogical to say anything is impossible? You who claim to be logical are the enemies of logic.
Thank God there are people that think like me or else we would still be riding horses.
It takes courage to go into the realm of the unknown.

blastingas10 · 11-27-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It's the only way to think logically. You assume the most logical explanation, and then move on from there with the scientific method. If the most logical explanation ISN'T the correct explanation, then the scientific method should show that. Anything else is just a recipe for self deception.

But logic can be subjective. What may be logical to one person may not be to another. When Copernicus theorized that the sun was at the center of the universe, I'm sure it wasn't logical to other minds at the time. Even minds that were intelligent for their time. He had to open his mind to something that seemed illogical according to the current paradigm.

So, in theory, everything that seems logical to us now could very well be proven to be illogical by some revolutionary thinker in the future.

I have to agree with what seek says above. Just because we are sure we are right at the moment doesn't mean that we are indefinitely right. It only seems logical to me that some of the truths of today will be the fallacies of tomorrow, as we are always progressing our knowledge of the world.

11-27-2012, 07:58 AM	#586 (permalink)
seekn4 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: illinois Posts: 142	I know it looks like that but no, I have researched all of this with the same skepticism most of you on this thread share and there is just too much to support it. There is enough evidence to where you can't say its not possible. Go on you tube and check out the documentaries on the "buddha boy", " old man did not eat or drink for 70 years" I did not set out to prove anything, just to find out what is out there. There is a man that isn't effected by electricity, he hooked himself up to a 30 amp fuse and it doesn't hurt him. There is more out there than we were taught in school. There are new things being discovered everyday and it seems everyone has already formed opinions without seeing everything first. Not very logical. If anyone has read the bible, in the old testament it said Moses split a rock and water came out to give the Israelites water, and an archaeologist named Ron Wyatt followed the exodus trail that they took and found that rock, on the top of a mountain, it is 7 stories tall and it looks like it was split down the middle and you can tell that water flowed from it for awhile there is erosion that a 5 year old can see, go on you tube and check it out, see for yourself , the video doesn't lie. When you see the evidence your brain won't allow you to not believe its possible. There are ancient Sumerian text 5000 YEARS OLD that describe coming into our solar system on a craft, also described what every planet looked like, color and everything and described what the earth looked like from the outside. And modern science didn't know what the earth looked like until the last century. Everyone might want to do some reading/watching of Zacharia Sitchens work, what modern science has just found out recently, has been known for 1000s of years. I can't believe nobody has seen this stuff, its like the only information most people have is what are in high school text books. Or the random number generator experiments, they have proven that a person's intention can effect the outcome of what a machine does. The "what the bleep do we know/down the rabbit hole" series on you tube explains these experiments and then you can take them and research them further. If yall watch the above stated videos and check out "the language of the divine matrix" It will be enough to get you started and give you a base to start researching. I wish everyone would refrain from speculating until you have seen all of this and make an educated decision. If you stay one step in front of science you are a genius if you stay 2 steps infront you are a crackpot. And I know tore won't, he will just go to Wikipedia and find the skeptics view point and pass it off as his own opinion without seeing for himself. I know its too much work for most to find the truth. You have to be humble to learn anything new. And I know it sounds like I'm attacking you bro, but I'm not, I say all this with a smile on my face, and love in my heart! On another note I don't believe that whoever doesn't believe what I believe is stupid or an idiot, nothing could be further from the truth, everyone has the right to believe what they choose. Last edited by seekn4; 11-27-2012 at 09:15 AM.

11-27-2012, 10:38 AM	#589 (permalink)
seekn4 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: illinois Posts: 142	I don't believe in religion either, religion divides, love unites and negative emotions are for the weak minded, just cause I speak of the bible and ancient texts doesn't mean I'm religious, that is no different than reading a history book. And not having an opinion that isn't fed to you in school is weak minded too, wouldn't you agree? Incase you haven't noticed in history, the worlds consensus has always been proved incomplete by the next generation, what makes you think they have it all figured out now? The scientific consensus at one time thought the world was flat, and if you believe the worlds consensus is 100% accurate now you will be left in the dust just like the flat landers. It's not even logical to believe that the consensus is right, hasn't history proved that? If everyone believed just what we are taught in school, there would be no new discoveries would there, if everyone thought like the majority of people on this thread the world would never evolve past what you see today, so thank God there are people who think for themselves. And believe nothing is impossible. If yall were alive 80 years ago, you would be the people who laughed at people that said we can go to space and you would have been proved wrong. Can't you see you share the same mentality as those people, irrational. In light of how the world has progressed in the last 100 year's isn't it illogical to say anything is impossible? You who claim to be logical are the enemies of logic. Thank God there are people that think like me or else we would still be riding horses. It takes courage to go into the realm of the unknown. Last edited by seekn4; 11-27-2012 at 11:27 AM.

11-26-2012, 09:45 PM	#582 (permalink)
seekn4 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: illinois Posts: 142	I have spent many years studying both those subjects, every sect from every culture in philosophy/spirituality and psychology and spirituality are the same thing, and I didn't form any opinions until I heard and more importantly understood where everyone was coming from.

11-27-2012, 10:25 AM	#588 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	Religion is for the weak minded.