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Old 03-16-2012, 09:24 PM   #391 (permalink)
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Blankety, let's pretend for a second that you are much smarter than everyone here. Let's pretend your posts actually contain some sort of revelatory insight that none of us understand. If that's the case,

"If you can't explain something simply, you don't understand it well enough."

That was Einstein. I think it should be very clear by now no one here understands your posts. They are complicated and despite people asking you to clarify, they just get worse. Think about it.

Prof.Einstein said G-d can not be seen in any symbolic form,but is an energy within us which motivates every one of us for doing good.


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I want to enlighten you with something from someone we can all agree was much smarter than all of us.
Think about it.



I'm going to rent myself a house
In the shade of the freeway
I'm going to pack my lunch in the morning
And go to work each day
And when the evening rolls around
I'll go on home and lay my body down
And when the morning light comes streaming in
I'll get up and do it again
Amen
Say it again
Amen

I want to know what became of the changes
We waited for love to bring
Were they only the fitful dreams
Of some greater awakening
I've been aware of the time going by
They say in the end it's the wink of an eye
And when the morning light comes streaming in
You'll get up and do it again
Amen

Caught between the longing for love
And the struggle for the legal tender
Where the sirens sing and the church bells ring
And the junk man pounds his fender
Where the veterans dream of the fight
Fast asleep at the traffic light
And the children solemnly wait
For the ice cream vendor
Out into the cool of the evening
Strolls the Pretender
He knows that all his hopes and dreams
Begin and end there

Ah the laughter of the lovers
As they run through the night
Leaving nothing for the others
But to choose off and fight
And tear at the world with all their might
While the ships bearing their dreams
Sail out of sight

I'm going to find myself a girl
Who can show me what laughter means
And we'll fill in the missing colors
In each other's paint-by-number dreams
And then we'll put our dark glasses on
And we'll make love until our strength is gone
And when the morning light comes streaming in
We'll get up and do it again
Get it up again

I'm going to be a happy idiot
And struggle for the legal tender
Where the ads take aim and lay their claim
To the heart and the soul of the spender
And believe in whatever may lie
In those things that money can buy
Though true love could have been a contender
Are you there?
Say a prayer for the Pretender
Who started out so young and strong
Only to surrender

Pretend you see the meaning.
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:21 PM   #392 (permalink)
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I do not pray to some invisible imaginary friend. I'm way too strong for that BS. I don't need some deity that is unproven to rely upon. I see no evidence of any kind of loving "God" in this world or we wouldn't live in this cesspool that we do.

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Old 03-19-2012, 02:59 PM   #393 (permalink)
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I do not pray to some invisible imaginary friend. I'm way too strong for that BS. I don't need some deity that is unproven to rely upon. I see no evidence of any kind of loving "God" in this world or we wouldn't live in this cesspool that we do.
You could always move from Arizona, God did.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:50 PM   #394 (permalink)
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"If you can't explain something simply, you don't understand it well enough."
That is not true. It should read as "If you can't explain something simply, you may not have the aptitude to articulate what you want to say." There is more to a person's intelligence than just verbal skills. It could be possible that one may have Disorder of Written Expression and may not be able to express what he knows well.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:15 PM   #395 (permalink)
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Just got the current NewScientist in my letterbox and it's called The God Issue. I'll have a read and see if there's anything interesting.

For starters here is a quote from Alain de Botton's Religion for Atheists;

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It is when we stop believing that religions have been handed down from above or else that they are entirely daft that matters become more interesting. We can then recognise that we invented religions to serve two central needs which continue to this day and which secular society has not been able to solve with any particular skill: firstly, the need to live together in communities in harmony, despite our deeply-rooted selfish and violent impulses. And secondly, the need to cope with terrifying degrees of pain which arise from our vulnerability to professional failure, to troubled relationships, to the death of loved ones and to our decay and demise. God may be dead, but the urgent issues which impelled us to make him up still stir and demand resolutions which do not go away when we have been nudged to perceive some scientific inacurracies in the tale of the seven loaves and fishes.
As an atheist raised Catholic and a parent of young children I can certainly understand the attraction of the notion that you will be reunited with loved ones in the afterlife. The bond between parent and child is such that any mental gymnastics required to at least imagine that we can maintain that bond beyond death is entirely understandable.

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Old 03-19-2012, 10:25 PM   #396 (permalink)
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You could always move from Arizona, God did.
And you can always pray to your invisible buddy. Good luck with that. But speaking of cesspools... I've been to SoCal.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:37 PM   #397 (permalink)
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As an atheist raised Catholic and a parent of young children I can certainly understand the attraction of the notion that you will be reunited with loved ones in the afterlife. The bond between parent and child is such that any mental gymnastics required to at least imagine that we can maintain that bond beyond death is entirely understandable.
I agree that mental gymnastics are involved when it comes to religion. How else to explain that ppl have killed each other for centuries in the name of God?
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:58 AM   #398 (permalink)
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And you can always pray to your invisible buddy. Good luck with that. But speaking of cesspools... I've been to SoCal.
Never prayed in my life. Yeah the runoff from Arizona is getting pretty bad, hope we break off soon.
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Just got the current NewScientist in my letterbox and it's called The God Issue. I'll have a read and see if there's anything interesting.

For starters here is a quote from Alain de Botton's Religion for Atheists;



As an atheist raised Catholic and a parent of young children I can certainly understand the attraction of the notion that you will be reunited with loved ones in the afterlife. The bond between parent and child is such that any mental gymnastics required to at least imagine that we can maintain that bond beyond death is entirely understandable.
I agree with this. I mean, if religion isn't divinely inspired, then it is a process of evolution that came about to fulfill some need that wasn't being met without it, and since it's still around, we likely are still not meeting that need on our own.

As an atheist, without religion to justify ethics I've largely been left with nihilism and the concept that I keep going on and engage in morality because it is in my nature to do so, which is rather circular (life perpetuates itself and seeks to exist simply because it is instinctual) and doesn't hold much logic, since it doesn't really matter whether the atoms that constitute my body continue to constitute my body or whether they instead become a chair. Religion sort of gives you a reason to go on and engage in morality that can't really be argued over so we are able to engage in the minutiae of life without our minds being taken over with such thoughts.
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Never prayed in my life. Yeah the runoff from Arizona is getting pretty bad, hope we break off soon.
Hope you do too. Being new here, I have no idea why you decided to attack me just for being from Arizona. But since you did, I just have to ask... Is being a dick something you practice or does it just come naturally to you?
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