Salami

It makes just as much sense. Of course, you can temporarily work against it for either a very brief period, using mechanisms such as active transport, but the phrase still makes no sense at all.

Guybrush

By the way, I'm impressed you know about osmosis and its relevance to active transport. I didn't hear about these things until I was a bachelor student in university.

You're a teenager, right? I have to say you seem very well educated for your age

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Anyone who do not read my posts. Skim the bold if you like. So, do not appear to be scattered rants of nonsense. It's up to anyone. i don't care.

Salami. First of all, what happened to your powers? You were mighty. Silly i know. i am aware of that.

What i was referring to was a process of water purification outside the of the structure what you call a body.

i don't about over there, but, over here you can to the grocery, and, they have these machines. You can go to these machines with water jugs, and, you pull a handle, and, water comes down, and fills your jugs.

You can bring your own, and, as many as you like. i use what is close enough to four litres. We call them gallons. Why, I have no idea. We were taught in 1973 that America would go to the metric system by 1985. They don't keep many promises.

I promised tore not to rant, so, I will to you salami, because, i will.

These machines use a process called 'reverse osmosis'. They are not biological machines, so, i was referring to drinking, and, water we use to cook, and bath, and that sort of thing These machines take the salts out, and actually use ultra-violet light, or radiation to further clean out an impurities. it makes the fluoride and chlorine go away, but, i'm sure it's useless. We have pores and showering daily kind of defeats the purpose. Which is why i bath monthly. Don't take that seriously. I have to wonder.

Thanks Salami. I just found why they don't use this process for our municipal water supplies. They don't know where to dump all the salt they leave behind.

They know where to dump all the nuclear waste, but, they don't know what to do with brine, or excess salts left behind from the process! Sure wouldn't want to dump it in any environment, so, I figured out what i need to learn from your reply.

Yes you may, but, let's ask the book.

"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men".

I know you are a Christian, so, do you see how one verse is like a grain of wheat? And, that one verse can be studied, and worked, and can grow into many different meanings and interpretations. So, it not a matter of my Words lacking flavor. It is all the people who like flavorless food, and, that is exactly why my posts get thrown out and trampled by everyone. I add spice, i am not here to be all that serious, but, it's coming salami. It just might be time to clear this thread up. Or, begin a new thread. i haven't decided yet, but, i will be concise, yet, i am sure to ignored as well.

And, by the way. No offense salami, i like you. But, if i wish to account anyone or anything they say to righteousness; i can do it if i choose. i don't care he meant, it meant something for my benefit. Regardless of whether it was an insult, which it probably was. It's my call salami, it's my kingdom within, so, it was not exactly a correct judgment.

Everything happens for a reason salami. So, if i don't make sense to people, it is because it is not suppose to, not because it doesn't make sense.

Now, tore and i were discussing the water supply of the liquid that comes from a faucet. Not, how osmosis works biologically.

I learned something from your reply, so, it was a good thing for me, and, i do account to you for righteousness. The reply was not correct, but, the result of learning something that is true is right.

You did say 'with all due respect'. It's a nice gesture salami, and, i say thanks, but did you really mean it is your call.

So, here is food for thought, and, i will bold my major points, and, you can skip the rest, if you like. It's for me and a purpose, it doesn't need to be read. i am no longer cutting and pasting. i am not going to sound scattered. it will come to the time, that i will be direct and concise.

Someday salami, you will understand that we all here on this site for a reason.

That's it for now. i still love you salami, and, even better less mighty. i still don't eat pork, however.

We need pressure for osmosis, so, Queen seems to always have a good song for things. Freddie Mercury was a queen, and mercury is the messenger.
David Bowie? He? He/she came along for this one.

I will bold, so, take care mate

'Truth is one single thing and it is also many things for our sakes who learn this one thing in love through many things'.

The lyrics are on the screen, but, i am going to post them. He's making a point of how it may just may apply to reverse osmosis as it applies to society. See if you catch it salami. You'll either see it or not.



Mm ba ba de
Um bum ba de
Um bu bu bum da de
Pressure pushing down on me
Pressing down on you no man ask for
Under pressure that brings a building down
Splits a family in two
Puts people on streets
Um ba ba be
Um ba ba be
De day da
Ee day da - that's okay
It's the terror of knowing
What the world is about
Watching some good friends
Screaming 'Let me out'
Pray tomorrow gets me higher
Pressure on people people on streets
Day day de mm hm
Da da da ba ba
Okay
Chippin' around - kick my brains around the floor
These are the days it never rains but it pours
Ee do ba be
Ee da ba ba ba
Um bo bo
Be lap
People on streets - ee da de da de
People on streets - ee da de da de da de da
It's the terror of knowing
What this world is about
Watching some good friends
Screaming 'Let me out'
Pray tomorrow - gets me higher higher high
Pressure on people people on streets
Turned away from it all like a blind man
Sat on a fence but it don't work
Keep coming up with love but it's so slashed and torn
Why - why - why?
Love love love love love
Insanity laughs under pressure we're breaking
Can't we give ourselves one more chance
Why can't we give love that one more chance
Why can't we give love give love give love give love
give love give love give love give love give love
'Cause love's such an old fashioned word
And love dares you to care for
The people on the (People on streets) edge of the night
And loves (People on streets) dares you to change our way of
Caring about ourselves
This is our last dance
This is our last dance
This is ourselves
Under pressure
Under pressure
Pressure

This is our last dance.

Stephen

If you really feel that you have wisdom to impart I don't think obfuscation is the best way to present it.

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Tore wrote:

You are welcome, and, thank you as well.

You misunderstood tore. That was not personally offensive. I understand things, that is not what i was referring to; it was the way you presented your words as though i did not already know these things. I know a lot about those things, and, related to most things that apply to disease. But, maybe you did not know that, and, were giving an elementary explanation. So, it could have been an inaccurate judgment. So, i apologize if that was your intention. Enough said, you do explain things clearly. That i will give you.

And, i don't get a lot of acute infections, such as bacterial, or viral infections very often. It is a matter of chronic systematic candidiasis. And, disorders caused by the actions of man's manufacturing of different products, and, the poisons they produce. My life-style has contributed to my decline on the health issue, so, i can't blame everything on the hazardous waste, i've done my share of hazardous waste dumping. But, that's not the issue here, so, ignore it.

i know why you do what you do, and, i will have the concise and clear reasons soon. you actually sent me on mission, and, i have to unload the information that was not useful. And, my hard drive needs compressed, and files deleted. Information overload. I don't exactly wonder after your links, so, i go off on the interstate. And, a couple of thousand clicks later, i'm tired mate, sorry. Don't bother reading this. It truly is silly nonsense.

There are things that i understand, that used to boggle my mind why you do not understand. It will come to light eventually tore. i want to be concise.

i don't need to know anything about evolution, or your personal views based on what is either learned, or remembered. Why don't i need to be concerned? You told me tore, that's why.

Everything you post will brought to light, and, you will find you told me things that i have to do, and, i will soon. No response to this, it will not be bold.



Mountains wouldn't part for me
They have no uncertainty
I'm just a passing emotion
Just hoping they take notice
And you are an opportunity
Without an opportunity
Another passing emotion
And hope that someone will take notice

And did I hear you sing
That we exist without existing
Or did I hear you sing
That we'll land where we begin

I understand it, but I don't show it
So I won't think it, and maybe we'll be there
Maybe we will be there

I understand it, but I don't show it
So I won't think it, and maybe we'll be there
Maybe one day we will be there

Oh, oh-oh-oh...

I thought I heard you say
That I must be disappearing
But I'm sure I heard you sing
We won't begin

I understand it, but I don't show it
So I won't think it, and maybe we'll be there
Maybe we will be there

I understand it, but I don't show it
So I won't think it, and maybe we'll be there
Maybe one day we will be there

Oh, oh-oh-oh...

You have no sense in emptiness
Will you try a little harder
You have no sense in emptiness
Will you try, try, try a little harder

And, to imply that even fungus toenails are a 'superficial' infection. That's what you buy into tore, as one who has been taught. Is it genetic? i would assume that it is a genetic disorder, which i addressed as a missing regulatory gene. But, it is also a problem that is brought on more severely through environmental issues, and, the actions of man. I won't get into that tore, it doesn't matter. You will soon understand how things do not just happen for no reason. Everyone is naturally selected, and i am still working on a concise and clear message. So, i will bold and skip the rest if you like


What on Earth are you doing, God?
Is this some sort of joke you're playing?
Is it cause we didn't pray?
Well I can't see the point of the word without the action
Are you just hot air, breathing over us and over all?
Is it fun watching us all?
Where's your son? We want him again!

And next time you send your boy down here
Give him a wife and a sexy daughter
Someone we can understand
Who's got some ideas we can use, really relate to
We've all read your rules, tried them
Learnt them in school, then tried them
They're impossible rules, and you've made us look fools
Well done, God, but now please...

Don't hunt me down, for Heaven's sake!
You know that I'm only joking, aren't I?
Pardon me I'm very drunk!
But I know what I'm trying to say, and it's nearly night time
And we're still alone, waiting for something unknown, still waiting
So throw down a stone, or something!
Give us a sign, for Christ's sake!

This question is a response i would like to see, but, you don't have to reply. it won't be bold.

Why do you consider that song as one of your favorites?

'Who is then but God, who sends us songs in the night'?
'Who better for us to learn, than from the beasts from the Earth'?

Now, what is the name tore? And, who is the Christian god tore? Because, you make it concise, and, clear that you are a hard-core Atheist.

That is one question you need to answer, with clarity please?

i am reasonably certain i know the answer, but, i would like you to tell me.

i don't see you as a hard-core Atheist. i see a staunch believer. No bold.

This is a good song, but, it appears you enjoy a different sound



Walk away, I walk the wire
And my fields are burning in the flames
Feel my way, blind in the mire
Struggling from your voice inside my head
But now everything's trying to drag me down
But I'll rip the sky from the ground
But tell me now, who's my saving one
or a gun
Stripped away my last desire
Nothing comes and nothing's sent away
Happiness I couldn't hire
Struggling from these thoughts inside my head
All that's safer falls from my favor
When it over who will cry for me
It's safe to say I don't desire
Everything you push inside my head
And I'll reject it until I'm dead

That was an error. Is was a continuation of a question, and, i did not put a question mark. It ended in a period. I should have used a semi-colon. So, it was a grammar mistake; but, you probably could have assumed; since it read 'And,' that it was a continuation. I shouldn't assume i guess.

And, i don't use words like obfuscation. Who is trying to confuse who? Why did you use that word? What are you attempting to impart?

The question was how he could see that it could be interpreted? I don't think it should be so confusing, or muddled, or subject to create 38,000 different denominations of any religion.

That's what confused you. It was not a statement. I should apologize, but, i don't feel it's actually necessarily. But, i will apologize, my bad mate.

No mate, i have no wisdom to impart How do you impart wisdom? Can anyone give it away? Or, sell it, as many, many have attempted?

How did it confuse you? I will attempt to make it more clearly and concisely. One Word can be many different definitions, or names. Take the word 'god'. Look in the dictionary, and, take every link, and, every definition and read. How many different interpretations explode from that one Word?

Does that clear up the muddiness? So, it also applies to the universe. One verse. Just as the universe exploded (theory) into 200 billion Galaxies (not exactly correct, they didn't have even calculators when Hubble counted them), so too can one verse in a book mean several different things. They are not open to any one interpretation. That's the problem. And, not open to any one person's own interpretation.

We have too many verses, and too many Words, and interpretations.

Whatever you believe it to mean, that is what it means to you.

Here is another interpretation. I have no idea. I have others, but, i don't want to start a ruckus yet. Or, again, and again. Just the bold is a point.

And, where did you come up with the notion that i was imparting Wisdom?

Did i say that? i never once mentioned anything concerning any Wisdom.

it's called truth. If you don't believe that, then ask yourself what it means. Then that is also truth.

So, did those Words lack flavor? Or, are your taste buds lacking sense?

'Truth is in the eye of the beholder'. Is the clear enough? i have to wonder. That is the only bold, so, take it for what its worth.

i am not being contentious mate. i am simply replying as concisely as possible.

Here's something to be True to, and believe this song might be sending a message. Because, it isn't happening.

And, all i will say is that Jay Farrar can sing, and Wilco sucks And, if the truth be told, i had to look up the word obfuscation And, i've never met an Australian who i did not like. Ever. i am only 50, so i a few more years

So, i have to ask if this is clear, or, can you see it?edited a smiley.



I can only sing it loud
always try to sing it clear
what the hell are we all doing here
making too much of nothing
or creating one unholy mess
an unfair study in survival, I guess

but it always comes down to
what to do when it's all around you
and this tight wire act
leaving us here for dead to news of the world
and liquor piles up ahead
dodging those with words of power
forever on their breath
when the quality of life gets tripped up strangled like death
it seems it's getting harder out there especially without time enough to see

true to life is another hangover
true to life is more and more politics
true to life is always having to look over your shoulder true to life is assembly-line sickness

but it always comes down to
what to do when it's all around you

and this tight wire act leaving us here for dead to news of the world
and liquor piles up ahead
dodging those with words of power
forever on their breath
when the quality of life gets tripped up and strangled like death
it seems it's getting harder out there especially without time enough to see

I just posted. I made some bold, and, that's that. So, just what i bold, and, know that i just typed, and, nobody is true to anything. And, i don't do this for my health.

So, relax mate. I know you have to be nice. You're from Australia.

blastingas10

I like how always relate and end a post with a song, Steve.

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I should use a signature that let's everyone that my points are in bold.

thanks blaster. I do post music, that cannot be debated And, they always relate to the nonsense, but, i don't know if most see that. you're alright dude. So, i think we need to reward you with something suggesting gas. So, i will find a good one from one of my favorite newer bands.

Gaslight Anthem is appropriate, don't you think It's Tuesday, so, it's a two-for. My favorite is Red at Night. It get's the lyrics. (edited) My biological clock is fast, evidently. It's Monday. The moon's day, just like any other day for me. So, since this is a music site, and, the moon is out, i'm going to add a third. Because, it's an insomnia thing, and, i just get rambling worse.



This a beautiful ballad. It soothes me.



I was born in a town where the rivers flow free
On a January night when the cold winds freeze
I got an Irish name and an injury
Blessing and a curse cast down on me
Ain't nobody got the blues like me
Ain't nobody got the blues like me

Was a blood red sky on the morning tide
Was a cold wind blowing when I left that night
And the morning bells rang, alright, alright
Shoulda stayed home with you that night
Ain't nobody played the fool like I
Ain't nobody played the fool like I

Things got bad and things got worse
Half like blessing, half like curse
It's these blessings so hard to see sometimes
Gotta little clearer about dusk last night
Ain't nobody got a blessing like mine
Ain't nobody got a blessing like mine

It's a red sky night and I'm doing alright
It's a red sky night and I'm doing just fine

Have you ever heard of The Mountain Goats blaster? It's a one man band. John Darnielle. He's The Mountain Goats He's on the dark side of the moon as well. But, there is no message in music blaster. I like him, but, he is not exactly comforting. This is silly nonsense, blaster. i'm a lonely guy.





If the strain proves too much
Give up right away
If the light hurts your eyes
Stay in your room all day

When the room fills with smoke
Lie down on the floor
In the declining years
Of the long war

Well the blood’s in the water
And the shark’s gonna come
And we swim in the dark
Until our bodies are numb

Blind desert rats in the moonlight
Too far from shore
In the declining years
Of the long war

Empty room with a light bulb
Where the phone starts to ring
Everybody gets nervous
Nobody says anything

The next day someone’s initials
Show up on the door
I think I’m gonna crack
Can’t live like this anymore

Ugly things in the darkness
Worse things in store
In the declining years
Of the long war


peace blaster. the thread will be solved soon. But, again I have doubts that most still won't see. i know the information will be stored in the DNA structure of a new microorganism that begins evolution all over again.

Guybrush

I think your idea that I'm talking down to you is a result of your own defensiveness or hurt feelings. I'm just trying to teach you something because there is nothing in your posts that lead me to believe that you have a firm graps of the concept of evolution or natural selection. You confront me with whether or not things you mention are examples of evolution or natural selection and my thoughts generally are - if you knew for yourself, you wouldn't ask. I'm only trying to help you understand something.

People in general don't always have pleasant dreams, but I can't remember dreaming about any particular calamity like a car crash. I have the avatar I do because I personally like rats, am relatively knowledgeable on rat genetics and take an interest in breeding and also teaching people how to do that responsibly - although that's not generally a topic for discussion on musicbanter. Tore is my real name and it has nothing to do with the english meaning of the word. Like there are biblical names, mine is a norse name which refers to the norse god of thunder, Tor, generally called "Thor" in english.

You write that you notice a concern in me. My guess is you notice that I am trying to address your posts respectfully. I'm genuinely interested in getting my points across to you. Had I been simply interested in "winning" a discussion or make you look silly, I wouldn't have posted the way I do. I want this exchange to be meaningful to both of us.

Well, the infection sits in the nail which is on the "surface" of your body, so yes, it is superficial. Unless I am misunderstanding the english meaning of the word.

It's beginning to dawn on me that you believe that the American government is actively poisoning the American population to force a "natural" selection of citizens. You feel there's a conspiracy out there that you are a victim of.

Am I wrong about that?

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Tore wrote: First, i bold the points, so, you can read what you want.

Firstly, you need to go and read again. i edited it, and, there were things in there that i took, or corrected. i mentioned that. I reworded it and apologized, and, i took out some things i probably should not have mentioned.

My daughter has dreams that i can't interpret. She has silly and good dreams.

And, i also believe that when i edited, i took that out. I deleted the things i saw as not appropriate at this time. As for dreams, i also have an ability to interpret many types of dreams. You did have a car crash last march, by the way. You mentioned it in another thread. And, crash dreams are particularly very unpleasant, and, have a tendency to apply to some future event. I also had several crash dreams. They usually predict some sort of calamity. 911 was a crash dream, and, it was actually a dream that manifested as a different event in the dream. But, the dream involved the information, and, how the event took place two days later. It makes no difference, but, if you have unpleasant dreams more often than not, it is indication of your fears manifesting as nightmares. That's not important, but, dreams do often suggest fear. I took it out, so, no bold here.

Now you are in my area of knowledge. Names, Words, and religions and mythology. It's all mythology as the stories go, but, your name Tore is not actually Thor. It is ÞÓRIR. Which means 'Thor's warrior, man' It is actually Thore.

What in interested it is also Italian 'Tore', from Salvatore, which means 'Savior'

The making me look silly part, or winning a discussion is something we need to avoid. That sort of thinking, is not recommended. We do want to have a meaningful discussion to both of us.

It can grow on the surface, but, the majority grows underneath.

Again, that has nothing to with natural selection as you define it. And, it is really not the government. The government. That's amusing that people believe that government has any power whatsoever. The corporate lobbyists, funded by the major banks, and corporations are the ones 'running' the government, including yours, and every country that plays ball. That's cute tore. And, to think it is limited to the American population is also quite naive actually.

Read this or not. But, on the back of an american dollar it has symbolism, and, I imagine as least the Euro does as we;;. I have never seen U.K. currency, but, i would bet that there is something there. I know you are filmed quite a few thousand of times per day. 6000 was the estimation years ago, it could be way more now. What are they using to keep you all the dark?

'Annuit Coeptis Norvus Ordo Seclorum'

Which they say means, 'he has approved our undertakings to begin a new order for the ages'. Not exactly correct. I dug it down word for word.

It really means, 'to obliterate, annihilate, and destroy to begin a new secular order for the ages' i could not translate into latin the word seclorum. But, it's not hard to see secular in that word.

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It goes way behind that tore. Again, i wont dwell.

But, what is important is the fact you did not answer the question i asked you to answer. What about the God v god issue. So again, enlighten me on the difference through the names please.

This was written when Bush and Blair fu**ed up the world. i'm playing two, because there is a mate from U.K. who also writes political songs.

They're both really good.



They say the new world order is just god's master plan but if the blueprint calls some to starve, don't blame god's right-hand man, 'cause the president is holy, and the president is pious, and hallelujah! He's a good ol' boy! Hosanna in the highest!

The plan is written in god's hand so only bush can read it, and it calls for battle in god's name and it calls for bush to lead it, and the blueprint calls to drill for oil, and exterminate the land, and if you can't hear god's calling, then you're probably from France! 'Cause the USA is holy, and the USA is pious, and hallelujah! God is on our side! Hosanna in the highest!

And god is great, and god is good, and let us thank god for our food, we may well have more than we need and god well yet have mouths to feed, but god is great, and god is good, and someday soon, he'll feed you, too, 'cause once we've got our yachts and crowns, god planned some food to trickle down, so just keep those thoughts holy, be patient and be pious, and hallelujah! God'll grant your prayers, hosanna in the highest!

And I thank god for a god so mild, who spared the rod and spoiled the child, and signed a blank check so his boys and girls could buy up the entire world, so don't think us rude if we intrude, but god in heaven ordained us to, so you best improve that attitude and step aside we've work to do and thanks for keeping things in shape 'til we could come and take our place. Oh hallelujah! ain't life great? Hosanna in the highest!

He has an accent to be sure.

Howard the Duck

most of the posts in my own thread are getting to be tl;dr

i'm just skimming through and maybe i'll even unsubscribe

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