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Old 12-16-2011, 12:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What Deuce detailed is not quite the same as deism. A deity who has predetermined all of time already is not the being of deism, who merely gave birth to everything and stepped back to let it run of its own accord.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding deism, or maybe there are different "versions" of it. But a deist regards the tenets of all organized religions as rubbish. Jesus, the afterlife... these are things that a deist rejects.

At least, this is according to Wikipedia and deism.com, which may not be reliable sources of authority on deism.
I'm just saying that most religions or philosophies have an all-or-nothing approach; either you subscribe to every facet of our belief or you're not one of us. Many people, including myself, don't fit neatly into the box of established philosophies, making it often difficult to define what one believes, but it seems that Il Deuce is "borrowing" the core essence of deism, which is the belief that a deity created everything and stepped back to let it run.
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What Duce detailed is not quite the same as deism. A deity who has predetermined all of time already is not the being of deism, who merely gave birth to everything and stepped back to let it run of its own accord.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding deism, or maybe there are different "versions" of it. But a deist regards the tenets of all organized religions as rubbish. Jesus, the afterlife... these are things that a deist rejects. In fact, Duce described himself as a "gnostic Christian" which seems incompatible with deism.

At least, this is according to Wikipedia and deism.com, which may not be reliable sources of authority on deism.
Yeah that definitely is deism. There can't be any kind of interference with the natural world except for the original action of creating it.

Pretty interesting how it bridged a gap for the enlightenment period for scientists to have free roam for exploring scientific without any thing holding them back because they didn't have to subscribe to existing supernatural explanations all while still keeping it within the scope of theism. Which was probably very important to ensure that they weren't 100% alienating and rejected by their peers.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I firmly believe in Jung's theory of the Archetype.
All gods, devils, demons, djinn, angels, etc. are ancient archetypal structures embedded within the psyche/unconsciousness, they are brought to the surface/consciousness through symbology.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I firmly believe in Jung's theory of the Archetype.
All gods, devils, demons, djinn, angels, etc. are ancient archetypal structures embedded within the psyche/unconsciousness, they are brought to the surface/consciousness through symbology.
Sorry, what? Can you explain this to me like I'm five?
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Old 12-16-2011, 04:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry, what? Can you explain this to me like I'm five?
Sorry, five year olds wouldn't comprehend
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Sorry, five year olds wouldn't comprehend
I think it turns out you're the most inane person on this forum. You post things that sound intellectual on the surface, but in reality, once you remove all the pedantic fluff the things you say often make little-to-no sense.

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All gods, devils, demons, djinn, angels, etc. are ancient archetypal structures embedded within the psyche/unconsciousness, they are brought to the surface/consciousness through symbology.
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Supernatural beings are "ancient archetypal structures" (whatever THAT means) that we repress in our minds, becoming unrepressed through "symbology"? Is that the gist of what you're saying? Can you explain what "ancient archetypal structures" are and what you mean by "symbology"?
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think it turns out you're the most inane person on this forum. You post things that sound intellectual on the surface, but in reality, once you remove all the pedantic fluff the things you say often make little-to-no sense.
I guess if you had more than a 6th grade education you might know what I am talking about.



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Supernatural beings are "ancient archetypal structures" (whatever THAT means) that we repress in our minds, becoming unrepressed through "symbology"? Is that the gist of what you're saying? Can you explain what "ancient archetypal structures" are and what you mean by "symbology"?
Look it up, why would I explain anything to you with an attitude like that?
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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like imaginary friends, Evan
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sorry, what? Can you explain this to me like I'm five?
LOL. One night my five year old son heard my wife say a quick prayer. He said "You know mummy god's just in your imagination."
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LOL. One night my five year old son heard my wife say a quick prayer. He said "You know mummy god's just in your imagination."
yeah, that's what I started this debate for

is there enough empirical evidence that God merely exists as a vehicle of neurology? that the God experience is purely of the mind?

or is there really "something" out there?

or are neuroscience and God mutually exclusive non-magisterial subjects?
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