SIRIUS, I was not referring to you at all. It had nothing to do with you. I apologize if you felt it did. It's not about disagreeing, and, making valid observations. It's the one or two line smack that seems to pop-up quite often.

You are correct. I can fill some space. 43 pages on this reply alone I cut and pasted. I have this file called 'random postings'. I've never posted any of it!:)

And, finally it hit me. You're right. My worldview is WRONG. Not the knowledge. The 'view'. It is too negative. Thanks for screaming it at me. I needed to hear it. Your view as it applies to the 'light bringer' is definitely not wrong, according to the story. That name did not appear until 1611, the day that we first saw the KJV 'standing in the holy place'. In a pew of the Anglican church. 'Let the reader understand'.

No more of my rants involving attempting to make everything True. I've known for a long time that it was sacrificed. Crucified. If you get my drift.

And, the one thing I have never done. I have never allowed another human being to teach me anything when it comes to my worldview. I have done the works, and, do not rely on other men to form my belief system. It is our cross to bear, and, our own burdens to carry. But, maybe that is my mistake. I don't listen to other men, or obey, and, that includes myself.

And, if Faith is accounted for righteousness, then that is what I rely on. Not a human sacrifice, except my own. And, I've done it daily for a while. 'It is finished'. Or, is it? Martyrdom. It was a choice. I made the choice without a moment's thought. I don't know why, but, that's what I did.

Then He said unto his disciples, 'if any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow after me'

You shed some SIRIUS light on something I was totally misinterpreting. I thought it was a denial of pride, ego, and other negative emotions. It is a denial of myself completely, and, who and what I was connecting myself to, in regard to the ties that bind.

'If you wish to swim on the bosom of the ocean of Truth, you must reduce yourself to a zero'. Now, I know exactly what Gandhi meant by this. And, I have you to thank for that. Thanks.

I pondered your reply for a week or so. I do not normally misunderstand any posts, but, I had to ponder yours, and, why you shouted WRONG.

And, SIRIUS, I far from know everything. I don't know. I know I have to lose those ties that bind. But, I am well prepared for the onslaught that came as a level 17 hurricane. Blew off all my horns and heads. I'm the hornless, headless horseman:)

'Ties that bind'. That would have been a better way to express 'constraint'.

But, I do not 'abide in my accomplishments'. Or, simply 'practice what I preach'. I told others not to 'constrain' themselves, when I was doing that very thing. Hypocrisy.

'Who better to learn from than the beasts of the earth'? Beasts are men SIRIUS. And, symbolically represented as animals, and trees are the teachings, and the men who are credited as the authors. Fruit is the knowledge, and, leaves are pages. Seeds are the Words. The various 'rules' are the ties that bind, and, the names we connect.

But, we are beasts. And, I did learn a lot from that one single Word. WRONG.

Here is what I would prefer the worldview to consist of for myself and everyone.

'What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. This is the whole law, everything else is commentary'.

'Love one another, as I have loved you. There is no greater love than this; that a man lay down his life for his friends'

Or, even as the Wicca points out.

'Do what you will, harm no one'. Evil witches:yikes::usehead:

But, you have not been privy to my experience. It's not a privilege. And, if you had, you would not have been able to withstand it. It would have blown your mind. And, I am certain of that. Nothing personal, but, it about blew mine. As, I said, I was prepared, and, that was with some guidance and restraint. And, I take no credit. Be thankful, and, it does involve Faith to be sure. And, more of a long jump, not simply a 'leap'.



But, you do know at least what you profess to worship. So, have Faith, and, everyone get off the good and evil train. It is one or the other, or neither. Not both. This I know. And, Truth or lies? They are not antonyms. But, it is an all or nothing thing. Or, is it? Or, do we create our own, and, live out that creation?

It is certainly a trial and error process. And, I have made my share of errors. This I also know. But, my intentions are not wrong. I really do not like warning people. It is rather hateful to me. But, I have done it, because, I was informed by someone else that I needed to, not out of want. It's an act. And, I will not attempt to clean up anyone's, until I clean up my own.

And, I am accused of being a lot of things. But, the one thing is the fact that I am not obstinate. I am not unwavering, or steadfast to the point of obnoxiousness. I'm not a Philistine. And, you did enlighten me to some things I needed to see. And, thank you very much for screaming it.

Here is the point of this rant. No matter your intentions, just know that you have done something positive for another human being. And, it is my belief that it will be accounted to you for righteousness. That is what I believe.

You brought some light, 'oh day star, son of the dawn':) And, you are certainly not the 'arch enemy' that the 'religious' people seem to connect that name with. I needed to see that I am not as well. How can either a 'Light bearer/bringer', or the 'Light of the world' be a 'Prince of darkness'?

You definitely shed some Light on something I was not viewing so clearly.

I will not preach anything, until I practice what I preach. I will make the tree good, and, the fruit good. I will see things in a positive Light. Or, I will die trying. And, I will come back, and, do it again if necessary. I will never deny the Faith, and the Word of the testimony of Duce's lawyer. Never. And, I will never blaspheme the Spirit of that feeling of agape love, and everything we define as goodness. I will never believe anything that suggests a good and bad Spirit, as it applies to a singular entity. That is a creation of man which I refuse to believe. I will also no longer see in others what I saw in myself. And, I will try my absolute best not to view myself in that manner.

Consider this reply to be a self-reflection, and, not as debate. I am not disagreeing with your reply. It was spot on, and, accurate.

There is supposed to be one knowledge. But, you are right. There is way more than one knowledge. Why? It has become something of a competition. And, divisive to the point of absolute chaos.

Until I reconsider the manner of which I present my views. Just consider this to be my worldview.

I don't believe that there are any bad guys.

It's a story. Of a lovely lady. Who was bringing up three very lovely girls. All of them had hair of gold, like their mother. The youngest one in curls. It's a story. Of a man named Brady. Who was bringing up three boys of his own. They were four men. Living all together. Yet they were all alone. Till the one day when this lady met this fellow. And, they knew that it was much more than a hunch. That this crew would somehow form a family.

That's the way we all became the Brady Bunch!:crazy:

Furthermore, I totally made an observation concerning crukster that was way off! Anyone who thinks I need professional help should look at that last post of his! Wow!:crazy:

I will sit back for a bit, and observe. I have taken your words to heart, SIRIUS.

No more 'habla, habla, habla, no dice nada'. Certainly, 'menos practicar'.

He had a thousand ideas, you might have heard his name
He lived alone with his vision
Not looking for fortune or fame
Never said too much to speak of
He was off on another plane
The words that he said were a mystery
Nobody's sure he was sane

But he knew, he knew more than me or you
No one could see his view, Oh where was he going to

He was in search of an answer
The nature of what we are
He was trying to do it a new way
He was bright as a star
But nobody understood him
"His numbers are not the way"
He's lost in the deepest enigma
Which no one's unraveled today

But he knew, he knew more than me or you
No one could see his view, Oh where was he going to
And he tried, but before he could tell us he died
When he left us the people cried,
Oh where was he going to?

He had a different idea
A glimpse of the master plan
He could see into the future
A true visionary man
But there's something he never told us
It died when he went away
If only he could have been with us
No telling what he might say

But he knew, he knew more than me or you
No one could see his view
Oh, where was he going to
But he knew, you could tell by the picture he drew
It was totally something new,
Oh where was he going to?

Where are we going to? I've never expressed a 'religious worldview'. You did not know it, but, you saw it as WRONG. And, the view is something I need to change. I viewed the glass as one droplet from completely empty. No one is pointless. It is a matter of understanding. It took me a while, but, I did eventually see your point. And, it was helpful, and, eased quite a bit of torment. So, thank you again.

Take care mate. You've given me some peace of mind. I appreciate it.

LOL. It's certainly crossed my mind.

:bonkhead: Egads Man . . . breath!

Mine too:) But, the psychologist I visit every so often does not concur. He wonders why I come to visit. It's a depression thing, not, any major three letter disorders. So, I have to go with what the professionals say, and, disregard all the psychoanalysts on the forum.

But, I appreciate your concern. And, any good drugs you can mail me:)

Keep bonking. It will sink in eventually. I did not want to bring this up, but, it is 'ad nauseam'. Hope it doesn't make you seasick.:)

This comment concerns me slightly.
It seems that the logical conclusion of this premise is the justification of any act upon another human being. If you are able to convince yourself that ultimately, whatever you do is in some way positive and beneficial to another person then there is no moral restriction on your actions. How could someone tell you that rape is wrong if you are convinced that what you are doing is, regardless of your intentions, being used for the benefit of the victim?

And more importantly, I think it is also a hazardous statement to claim that it "will be accounted to you for righteousness". Righteousness is not, certainly not for a religious person, to be considered a virtue easily attributable to anyone, or even a common and basic one. It is something to be striven towards, a virtue only attributable to those who labour for what is good.

And my concern is that by lowering the threshold for being "righteous", from a religious perspective you lower the threshold for what is morally right, and ultimately cheapen virtue.

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That odd pillow that God is riding on looks a bit like a brain, does it not? Michelangelo, you freaking genius.

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[QUOTE=Salami;1155933]This comment concerns me slightly.
It seems that the logical conclusion of this premise is the justification of any act upon another human being. If you are able to convince yourself that ultimately, whatever you do is in some way positive and beneficial to another person then there is no moral restriction on your actions.

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I won't argue this. I should have considered before posting. But, dictated moral restrictions present a problem. If we would all live by the law of agape love, then, that would eliminate the need for dictated moral restrictions.

Who knows Salami. It was a good deed, but, you may be right. I may have no idea, and, that is a long list. I just hope that Faith does. And, I am in no way justified to make moral judgments on anyone.

What is good bro? What is righteousness? What is Truth? Or, Virtue? There is no moral excellence or perfection in any human being. That is what I believe, and, it is written.

How would you feel about being raped? Enough said.

huh? erotic love is what makes us procreate

imagine if man had only brotherly feelings for women and women had only sisterly feelings for men

or do you mean strangers should have agape love for each other, as the hippies believed?