The Philosophy of Psychiatry

Engine · 12-05-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

I'm not being snarky or silly here, I want some people to step up and defend it for what it actually is.

I'm done projecting.

You should say exactly what you think it "actually is" then. You're obviously opposed to it? ThePhantasio's response gives some defense. I'll give some more (albeit vaguely) by saying that a good number of human brains just don't benefit the well-being of their accompanied body very well and sometimes psychiatric drugs make them work better. Are you gonna go Scientologist on us and say otherwise?

**Janszoon** · 12-05-2011, 09:29 PM

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Engine · 12-05-2011, 09:31 PM

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lucifer_sam · 12-05-2011, 09:35 PM

Nope, not remotely in the slightest. Just curious how other people perceive "disordered" minds.

I actually harbor much of the same sentiment as ThePhanastasio, but I've come to recognize that it's just laziness on behalf of the individual. The best psychiatrist I ever talked to equipped me with the tools to get my shit together by IGNORING ME.

Give a man a fish and he never learns how to wipe the shit off his shoes.

lucifer_sam · 12-05-2011, 09:36 PM

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Thom Yorke · 12-05-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Nope, not remotely in the slightest. Just curious how other people perceive "disordered" minds.

I actually harbor much of the same sentiment as ThePhanastasio, but I've come to recognize that it's just laziness on behalf of the individual. The best psychiatrist I ever talked to equipped me with the tools to get my shit together by IGNORING ME.

Give a man a fish and he never learns how to wipe the shit off his shoes.

You can't make that assumption just based on your own experiences. You seem like a smart guy; not everyone can deal with things on their own. Everyone responds differently and often times the case is a chemical imbalance in the brain that can be greatly helped by drugs, or can be greatly helped through therapy.

lucifer_sam · 12-05-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thom Yorke

You can't make that assumption just based on your own experiences. You seem like a smart guy; not everyone can deal with things on their own. Everyone responds differently and often times the case is a chemical imbalance in the brain that can be greatly helped by drugs, or can be greatly helped through therapy.

duh.

Thom Yorke · 12-05-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

duh.

What point are you trying to make in this thread?

SATCHMO · 12-05-2011, 11:53 PM

Like a lot of allopathic medicine, Psychiatry seems to be aimed at eradicating the symptom rather than examining the root cause of certain disorders. We have a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry that seems to be getting rich off the fact that most would rather take a pill and manipulate their neurotransmitters than to make an effort to change their lifestyle in a positive matter, which usually does much better in addressing the root cause of whatever perceived disorder they're experiencing in the first place.

Thom Yorke · 12-05-2011, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Like a lot of allopathic medicine, Psychiatry seems to be aimed at eradicating the symptom rather than examining the root cause of certain disorders. We have a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry that seems to be getting rich off the fact that most would rather take a pill and manipulate their neurotransmitters than to make an effort to change their lifestyle in a positive matter, which usually does much better in addressing the root cause of whatever perceived disorder they're experiencing in the first place.

Do you think some/most/all disorders have root causes that can be treated with therapy/lifestyle changes though? I don't think your last statement can be applied broadly.

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SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Like a lot of allopathic medicine, Psychiatry seems to be aimed at eradicating the symptom rather than examining the root cause of certain disorders. We have a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry that seems to be getting rich off the fact that most would rather take a pill and manipulate their neurotransmitters than to make an effort to change their lifestyle in a positive matter, which usually does much better in addressing the root cause of whatever perceived disorder they're experiencing in the first place.