Goshdarn you, Britain
 

If you haven't seen this already:



My worry is that a lot of people in our country agree with this woman, and would probably sit watching this video nodding their heads. She clearly has no idea whatsoever of anything she's on about, so why do they think she's right? Is petty racism and slander really what Britain's turning into?

These idiots always make me laugh. Is this woman sure she's really, truly British? No Anglo-Saxon, Norman or Roman blood? I'm sure if someone asked her she wouldn't even understand what they were talking about. The good news (and the bad news) is that this kind of moron can be found everywhere, it's not just a British problem. Heaven knows we have no shortage of them over here.

What that woman needs is a good slap. I really despise people like her and this kind of thing is sad to see in the year 2011. What's even sadder is that her son will probably think this is normal and grow up to be just like her or even worse. There is plenty of this everywhere, in my home town recently I saw a group of scumbags shout racial abuse at a Chinese girl who was walking along the other side of the street. It's even more widespead but on a smaller level among some older more conservative people who might just grumble about them coming over here and say they should all be deported. But really to see an all-out racial attack like that on people in this day and age is just sad to watch.

Most intelligent people don`t think she`s right and just see her for the piece of scum that she actually is, the big concern is for that poor kid of hers, as he will probably be influenced by that attitude of hers as he grows up, I`m surprised nobody hit her or beat her up on the train or tram.

I`d say attitudes today are actually less racist than they were, as a kid who grew up in the 1970s and 1980s, I had friends from ethnic backgrounds who at times suffered from racial slurs etc when they went out of their immediate environments, today they wouldn`t face it so it has got better.

As said, these people are everywhere and nearly every first world country today is inter-racially mixed and there is really no turning back, we live in a completely muti-racial society and there is really no turning the clock back on that.

The only thing that brought a smile to my face (I know that doesn`t sound appropriate) was when she mentioned the Poles, the poor old Poles always seem to get it! The fact of the matter is though, that your average Polish worker here, is a damn site harder working and more polite than your average british worker.

That is so ****ing embarrassing, she should have her child taken away from her honestly, because that kind of bull**** always gets instilled in the kid.

Its the same way here in the states with my good American Mexican friends from The Valley in South Texas.

Wow.....I guess the sun does set on her part of the Empire.

There is trailer park trash everywhere!

I`ve travelled around most of Latin America and always found latins to be the most friendliest and politest of any people that I`ve met.

That guy behind her almost did but it looked like someone tried to calm him down. Good thing because this could have turned a lot worse if he had done something. Instead we are just left with her looking like a total moron.

Poor kid...not only does he get to listen to all that language, but he's going to grow up a racist, too. I'll try to make myself feel better about this with the hope that these people are more in the minority than ever before. As time goes by and countries mix more and more these people will just look exponentially stupid.

She's scum, but the furore that's been created around it, in regards to the state of British society, is unwarranted. She represents a tiny fraction of the general population, and her views aren't indicative of a general opinion. She's just a fucknut .

That said, it's kinda a symptom of a larger problem. In the same way that noone will really call her out on what she was saying, other than tutting from a distance, the same can be said of people abusing political correctness: Playing the Race Card, the ridiculous disability job employment acts... It's true that there will always be people like this, but inability of governments like that in the United Kingdom to actually take a stance on what's right (Though Labour will always be more guilty of pussyfooting around than the Tories) is really not helping matters.

Ah, stuff like this makes my stomach churn and my blood boil.

EDIT: Call her out in what sense, Moonlit? During the incident itself, or during the aftermath? Honestly, I'd keep my mouth shut if I had been on that tram, because that sort of behaviour, and the anger she incites is frightening in an enclosed space.

Where I live she'd be considered a liberal.

I love that her justification for saying this stuff in front of kids is that she has a kid too.

But don`t you live on an island?

But that's precisely the point. It's a commonly held belief that she is virtually alone in her bigoted ranting, right? Yet virtually everyone (including myself) would be... cautious, when it came to confronting her on how racist and wrong she is.

She won't get "Punished" for this, she won't get told in a way she understands how wrong she is. She'll take any public outcry as reason to be more and more racistly brash because she doesn't care. It's hard to see how a change can be forced, but a bit of public solidarity against such rants probably wouldn't hurt.

I would be cautious, because I've seen people get assaulted for stepping into a confrontation. Physically assaulted. On a moving train, there's no where for you to run, and most normal people are just as frightened of the crazy.

Granted, that was on the last tube available on a Saturday night in Camden, but you never know what a stranger who is clearly out of their mind is going to do.

I like the fact that she puts her child at risk by antagonizing an entire train of people. Hey retard, what happens to the kid if someone decides to shut you up?

Ah the loud minority, where would we be without you? Actually probably colonizing planets, so fuck off.

Yes

With a massive population of Portuguese, Eastern European, Thai & Chinese immigrant workers.

Quite a lot of people don't like them here.
I'm not one of them BTW.

What people like that fail to take into account is that by their definition, the queen is German.

End of debate as far as I'm concerned.

Which is my point, really. If we could rely on everyone there who agrees with us to back us up, there wouldn't be a problem, it's just that everyone (including myself) has an "it's not my business" filter, which stops us from getting involved. Because of that, it's dangerous to speak out, because you on your own isn't a particularly strong army. So long as that attitude is prevalent, the "I don't give a ****" minority will never shut up.

I'm surprised the "I don't give a ****" minority isn't afraid of copping a fist.

Well.. why? It's pretty much accepted that anything anyone says in public is going to elicit at most a "shame on you" from someone as they leave the area so as to avoid getting hit. They know that noone is likely to start on them, because everyone else is too well behaved :P

The woman was arrested today and charged with racial harassment.

So basically she was arrested for being a bitch. That's actually pretty messed up if you think about it. People like her disgust me but I really don't think it should be a crime to be an asshole.

i think it depends on where in Britain you are

i was in Cardiff for two years and never had a racial incident - except for some chav shouting "Saddam Hussein" which may or may not have been directed at me, which is vague since i'm not Middle Eastern

whereas i was in London for a week and had TWO racial incidents - some lady saying "i'm not of their kind" in McDonlad's Baker Street to her kid and some chavs shouting "Ching Chong Chinaman" at the Embankment

Thanks to YouTube and cameras everywhere, its actually quite hard for a criminal or social ******* to escape some sort of justice.

Ching Chong Chinaman sounds like a song;) and I`m surprised that happened in Baker Street, its very much a case of spot the Brit there.

it was culturally alien to me anyway for me to feel annoyed, i confronted them in the Embankment tube station anyway and they backed down

mebbe it's probably because Baker Street was so multi-culturalist that the lady was slighted by so many "foreigners"

You wanna be careful confronting hoodlums here and you were lucky they backed down, but I guess these guys weren`t hoodlums as such and were just looking for a quick laugh at somebody else`s expense.

That part of central London (Baker Street) is extremely multi-cultural in that you`ll find people from all corners of the world, instead of just having one dominant immigrant group like say in Brixton or Southall. Edgware Road though which is not too far away from Baker Street, must rank as the most multi-cultural road in London, along with possibly being the longest road in London as well.

Being a bitch is one thing, but being racially abusive in public and disturbing the peace is another. I'm glad she got arrested. She probably won't get much of a punishment but she deserves a slap on the wrist.

I don't really see the difference. From a legal standpoint why should it matter whether she was being racially abusive or simply abusive in a non-racist way? I could understand kicking her off the train but arresting her seems extreme and kind of a pointless waste of resources.

By being racially abusive like that she is being in breach of the UK's Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006, which applies to racism as well as religious discrimination.

www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN03768.pdf

I don't know too much about the UK's laws but it's not like she's going to be put away for a few years, she will probably have to pay a hefty fine or do community service or something. It's not like she has freedom of speech here, if a member of this forum was to suddenly be racially abusive as opposed to simply abusive to other members you would have to take more serious action wouldn't you?

I understand that's the law there but I was questioning the reasoning behind such a law.

I don't know. Maybe. But the analogy doesn't really hold up since we wouldn't really be wasting any resources to do so.

To simply protect those from ethnic or different religious backgrounds from having to tolerate such abuse and hatred from the likes of this woman or any sort of discrimination. Providing they are legally allowed to live in the UK they should have some sort of protection to ensure equality.

I don't see how laws like that actually achieve that purpose though. I really doubt arresting this woman is going to make her any less racist. All it does is turn the problem of racism into something nobody talks about, which only serves to breed far more insidious forms.

I'm not sure I see how ignoring her is any more effective than punishing her then. Are you saying the same results would be achieved by waving it off, but without spending whatever resources?

It serves to quiet people like her and there are a lot more like her than people are willing to admit.

Yeah, or they might have their footman go fisticuffs with you and cast aspersions about your parentage.

"your grandmother smell of elderberries
and I fart in your general direction"?

(from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail")