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TheBig3 · 12-17-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubato

not allowing non-whites on to your premises is more than just a statement. His defense was that any business that went down that road wouldn't last long anyway, his intention wasn't to support it, he felt business wouldn't be stupid enough to do it in this day and age so there was no need for it.

Right.

What he's saying there is that the free-markets should determine these things. E.g. People wouldn't be caught shopping at such an overtly racist establishment in broad daylight. Everyone's free to have their opinion on whether or not that would work, but thats his position. He's not advocating businesses prevent non-white patrons from sitting at the lunch counter.

Also, I think Rand Paul said this, not Ron Paul.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 12-17-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

We need the 2nd Amendment when some lunatic goes on a shooting spree

Actually, that's not the point of the 2nd Amendment, that's the result of the 2nd Amendment. I mean, if you have a gun, and you run up to a guy who is going on a shooting spree, and shoot him. You'll probably serve jail time.

I think the purpose of the amendment was so that people could keep their guns in order to overthrow a crooked government. Which makes no sense in the nuclear age.

TheBig3 · 12-17-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

Actually, that's not the point of the 2nd Amendment, that's the result of the 2nd Amendment. I mean, if you have a gun, and you run up to a guy who is going on a shooting spree, and shoot him. You'll probably serve jail time.

I think the purpose of the amendment was so that people could keep their guns in order to overthrow a crooked government. Which makes no sense in the nuclear age.

*Is anyone else not seeing full posts until they are quoted? this is really strange...

You're right if thats the point of the 2nd amendment, but theres nothing that suggests thats the actual intent. As you've said, thats your opinion.

This is now a policy fight, but the 2nd amendment doesn't cause killing spees, its generally a result of mental imbalance. Which is a big issue in the US.

Mykonos · 12-17-2011, 03:37 PM

He's one of those guys? I never knew.

Well, I didn't think Ron Paul could get much lower on my list, but apparently he does. So now the big election choices are a corporate leech, a Bible-basher, a Tea Partier, a conspiracy theorist, a tea party/conspiracy theorist combo, and someone who may as well not get voted in again anyway as his last term has shown that the American public isn't willing to accept anything vaguely left. Good selection.

blastingas10 · 12-17-2011, 03:43 PM

Y'all clearly don't know what you're talking about. He supports the right of gays to marry. He doesn't believe the government has any right to tell gays that they can't get married.

He's not a racist. In a debate this year, the subject of racially profiling people of middle-eastern descent was brought up. Many candidates believed that we should take part in racial profiling at airports, and only people of middle-eastern descent should be suspected as terrorists. Ron Paul stood up and defended the rights of those people and said that racial profiling is unjust and it shouldn't be done.

As for life beginning at conception, it certainly doesn't. Technically, life begins at the fertilization of an egg. However, the baby can also die while it is still in the womb. Just because the life of a fetus begins at fertilization doesn't mean that the fetus will make it to live outside of the womb. So, I think it can go both ways.

The idea of a NWO is certainly real.

**Janszoon** · 12-17-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Y'all clearly don't know what you're talking about. He supports the right of gays to marry. He doesn't believe the government has any right to tell gays that they can't get married.

Not in any legal sense he doesn't. He is actually opposed to the federal government recognizing same-sex marriage.

blastingas10 · 12-17-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Not in any legal sense he doesn't. He is actually opposed to the federal government recognizing same-sex marriage.

He also doesn't support an amendment to the constitution that would protect the current definition of marriage. He personally believes in the traditional marriage of man and woman but he also believes that homosexuals should be allowed to marry in states that permit it. He has no intention of forcing his beliefs on anyone else.

**Janszoon** · 12-17-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

He also doesn't support an amendment to the constitution that would protect the current definition of marriage. He personally believes in the traditional marriage of man and woman but he also believes that homosexuals should be allowed to marry in states that permit it. He has no intention of forcing his beliefs on anyone else.

But he's perfectly fine with states refusing to recognize same-sex marriage. That's the problem.

blastingas10 · 12-17-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

But he's perfectly fine with states refusing to recognize same-sex marriage. That's the problem.

It would be unconstitutional for him to come in and overthrow the states law. Similar to the way he believes the federal government shouldn't be allowed to come in and overthrow a states laws on marijuana.

Mrd00d · 12-17-2011, 03:47 PM

That being said, I find Gingrich, Romney, Bachmann, Perry, and the rest of the bunch unelectable and more dangerous than Paul. This whole 2012 election is going to stink. Even with all those points in mind, Paul still seems the LEAST dangerous of the Republican nominations. I don't know. We're damned if we keep Obama and we're damned if ANY of the Republicans running get elected. We're damned.

12-17-2011, 03:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	He's one of those guys? I never knew. Well, I didn't think Ron Paul could get much lower on my list, but apparently he does. So now the big election choices are a corporate leech, a Bible-basher, a Tea Partier, a conspiracy theorist, a tea party/conspiracy theorist combo, and someone who may as well not get voted in again anyway as his last term has shown that the American public isn't willing to accept anything vaguely left. Good selection. __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

12-17-2011, 03:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Y'all clearly don't know what you're talking about. He supports the right of gays to marry. He doesn't believe the government has any right to tell gays that they can't get married. He's not a racist. In a debate this year, the subject of racially profiling people of middle-eastern descent was brought up. Many candidates believed that we should take part in racial profiling at airports, and only people of middle-eastern descent should be suspected as terrorists. Ron Paul stood up and defended the rights of those people and said that racial profiling is unjust and it shouldn't be done. As for life beginning at conception, it certainly doesn't. Technically, life begins at the fertilization of an egg. However, the baby can also die while it is still in the womb. Just because the life of a fetus begins at fertilization doesn't mean that the fetus will make it to live outside of the womb. So, I think it can go both ways. The idea of a NWO is certainly real. Last edited by blastingas10; 12-17-2011 at 03:50 PM.

12-17-2011, 03:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mrd00d Stoned and Jammin' Out Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Northern California; Eugene, OR; mobile Posts: 1,602	That being said, I find Gingrich, Romney, Bachmann, Perry, and the rest of the bunch unelectable and more dangerous than Paul. This whole 2012 election is going to stink. Even with all those points in mind, Paul still seems the LEAST dangerous of the Republican nominations. I don't know. We're damned if we keep Obama and we're damned if ANY of the Republicans running get elected. We're damned. __________________ Mrd00d's Last.fm

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