Circumcision

midnight rain · 10-03-2011, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Interesting. From the comments section...

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I am a 60 year old male that wasn't circumcised until I was 19 so I've had it both ways. I can assure you that there is no difference in feeling after being circumcised than before being circumcised. When having sex the feelings are just as intense either way.

Paedantic Basterd · 10-03-2011, 12:06 AM

I imagine it's different for everyone though. Need bigger sample size.

midnight rain · 10-03-2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I imagine it's different for everyone though. Need bigger sample size.

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Results of studies of the effect on penile sensitivity have been mixed. In a British study of 150 men circumcised as adults for penile problems, Masood et al. found that 38% reported improved penile sensation (p=0.01), 18% reported worse penile sensation, while the remainder (44%) reported no change.[4] In a survey of men circumcised as adults for medical (93%) or elective (7%) reasons, Fink et al. found an association between adult circumcision and decreased penile sensitivity that "bordered on statistical significance" (p=0.08).[5]
In a 2008 study of Kenyan men, Krieger et al. stated that "Adult male circumcision was not associated with sexual dysfunction. Circumcised men reported increased penile sensitivity and enhanced ease of reaching orgasm."[6] In a 2009 study of 22 men in Mexico circumcised for medical or aesthetic reasons, Cortés-González et al. reported a statistically significant improvement in "perception of sexual events" (p=0.04).[7]
[edit]Glans sensitivity

Seems the results are mixed

Howard the Duck · 10-03-2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

The whole 'better health' issue is a load of cobblers. A huge percentage of men in the U.K are not circumcised and that is what nature has given us so you work with that and don't alter it until you feel that it IS an issue.

STD percentages have not really used this argument as a case for or against cleanliness at least not over here.

An uncut penis does look more attractive visually yet a lot of sensitivity seems to be lost when uncut and may lead to desensitisation of the glans.

Having foreskin does lend itself very well to friction and extra stimulus regarding opposite forces when having intercourse and even the most lazy of the male species WILL keep himself clean both for physical and aesthetic reasons.

Circumcision has it's benefits but for frig's sake, let your kid's decide what they want to do with their bodies.

Enforcing any sort of will upon children is a detriment 9 times out of ten and performing surgery unnecessarily to appeal to your own sensibility is selfish and ignorant.

By all means support your children and guide them in future choices but to take away a body part (no matter how insignificant at the time) in order to appease a religion or doctrine is going against everything that a parent should aspire to.

easy to say when you don't have ages of religious dogma implanted in your brain

and i'm still indifferent, i don't see circumcision as "mutilation"

i'm still of the view the foreskin doesn't serve much purpose other than as a home for knob cheese

and finally, if you masturbate when you have a foreskin, it just comes out faster, s'all

and from all the scientific data presented here, there is no clear cut statistic on whether it is a benefit or a detriment

Guybrush · 10-03-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Seems the results are mixed

Personally, I don't feel it matters much wether results are mixed or not when it comes to neonatal circumcision.

If just for fun you imagine that circumcision greatly increases sexual function for 50% but greatly decreases sexual function for the other 50%, proving with statistical significance that the procedure is either good or bad for sexual function gets harder. But even if that was the situation, looking at the numbers should then tell you that a negative outcome is a significant possibility and that alone should make you as a parent decide to not force circumcision on your children, but wait until they can decide for themselves. The fact that there are studies that show negative consequences from circumcision should be enough (imo) to convince parents to not force the procedure on their kids.

Add to that that the benefits to circumcision are very small and that complications can occur during the procedure and it should be an appearant no-no. If you want to protect your kid against STDs, teach him how to use a condom. It's much better prevention than circumcision will ever be.

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it

Howard the Duck · 10-03-2011, 09:50 AM

or maybe it just doesn't really matter either way

Guybrush · 10-03-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

or maybe it just doesn't really matter either way

And you would subject your kid to a painful surgical procedure that doesn't matter?

Howard the Duck · 10-03-2011, 10:05 AM

all my friends who had it told me it only hurts when you pee, and that's only for a week tops

a baby won't have the cognitive abilities to "know" the pain

if the complications had posed such a threat to their well-being, it would have been discontinued long ago, even with the predisposition of religius beliefs and dogma

edit : or let me put it this way, i was born at a time when smallpox vaccination was still compulsory, even though there hasn't been a case of smallpox in 50 years

it seems the doctor used sharp glass to cut my arm, below the shoulder to insert the vaccine

do I actually remember anything about it? yet there's a pretty bad scar on my left arm

edit 2 - i think it's a cultural thing - circumcision is quite normal round these parts, and not in Europe

people here are also fussy fastidious about hygiene, from the time I lived in Cardiff, it is my knowledge that Europeans only bathe once a week

me, i get rather irritated even when there's a thin film on white on my cockhead

so will I lop it off if i have to? of course

and now, it isn't even a surgical procedure, they give you local anaesthetic and there's a corkscrew-like device which takes it off in about 5 minutes

i only will have to worry about not getting urine on the healing portion or try not to have an erection while it heals

midnight rain · 10-03-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

Personally, I don't feel it matters much wether results are mixed or not when it comes to neonatal circumcision.

If just for fun you imagine that circumcision greatly increases sexual function for 50% but greatly decreases sexual function for the other 50%, proving with statistical significance that the procedure is either good or bad for sexual function gets harder. But even if that was the situation, looking at the numbers should then tell you that a negative outcome is a significant possibility and that alone should make you as a parent decide to not force circumcision on your children, but wait until they can decide for themselves. The fact that there are studies that show negative consequences from circumcision should be enough (imo) to convince parents to not force the procedure on their kids.

Add to that that the benefits to circumcision are very small and that complications can occur during the procedure and it should be an appearant no-no. If you want to protect your kid against STDs, teach him how to use a condom. It's much better prevention than circumcision will ever be.

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it

Just clearing up the confusion about sensitivity brah, since it seems to be mentioned a lot in this thread

**Janszoon** · 10-03-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

And you would subject your kid to a painful surgical procedure that doesn't matter?

Exactly.

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Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	I imagine it's different for everyone though. Need bigger sample size.