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Mykonos 09-24-2011 02:42 AM

Even though I couldn't get any less racist, I'd still be against one being executed by the State. I think it's an immoral practice no matter who takes the chop.

Buzzov*en 09-24-2011 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mykonos (Post 1106001)
Even though I couldn't get any less racist, I'd still be against one being executed by the State. I think it's an immoral practice no matter who takes the chop.

I'm against the death penalty, but like I said something like that doesn't make me shed a tear.

djchameleon 09-24-2011 05:25 AM

The family of the victim that died in the dragging death didn't want the guy that did it to be executed, they wanted him to serve a life sentence.

The weren't even out for blood like in the Troy Davis case where his mother wanted blood in a revenge sense just for closure.

Mykonos 09-24-2011 05:50 AM

Punishment shouldn't be about revenge. If you want an eye for an eye, then you're just as bad as the criminal. The two main purposes of punishment should be reforming and protection. Killing a person for your own petty vengeance is the true crime.

lucifer_sam 09-25-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1105944)
He was a piece of **** racist. Yea I oppose the death penalty, but that is one case where I say I don't give a **** about that person since they were a real piece of ****.



Holy **** didn't know that.

This is what I'm talking about. How can you possibly adopt that attitude if you don't believe in capital punishment?

The only way to foster reparations within the community is to employ an empathic response. If you can't see a crime as a mistake, you fail to care for the very internal justice that is accredited us all.

Justice, in the criminal system, gives a chance for the criminal to be vindicated. Justice, in the purest egalitarian sense, imparts the enormous debt of communal forgiveness upon the criminal.

Buzzov*en 09-25-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 1106438)
This is what I'm talking about. How can you possibly adopt that attitude if you don't believe in capital punishment?

The only way to foster reparations within the community is to employ an empathic response. If you can't see a crime as a mistake, you fail to care for the very internal justice that is accredited us all.

Justice, in the criminal system, gives a chance for the criminal to be vindicated. Justice, in the purest egalitarian sense, imparts the enormous debt of communal forgiveness upon the criminal.

Empathy with racism? Are you ****ing serious with that response? Killing someone in the first degree is not a mistake since it is planned out. Sorry that is a horrible way to look at crime bud. Yes some may be remorseful in their murder which is great, but when you kill someone because of the color of their skin I have no ****ing empathy for you and could give a **** if you are killed in prison or the death penalty. That is why I can be against the death penalty and still not give a **** that ******* was put to death with the very thing I am against.

artemis 09-25-2011 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1105940)
The stupid bastard that got last meals taken away in Texas.

I would be so pissed if I was on death row and couldn't enjoy it because that prick decided to get an elaborate selection then he didn't fucking eat any of it.

It got news coverage.

He was executed for the dragging death of a black guy.

I always found this last meal thing odd.
You're about to be killed, and food is the last thing that you have a say over...


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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1105972)
Go about it peacfully? **** that dude. It won't work that way. I am very serious of abolishing capital punishment. I just hate racism to the point of not shedding a tear when some racist **** gets offed by the death penalty.

...no one is shedding a tear over a man who was so brutal.

Should he have been killed by the state? IMO, No.

djchameleon 09-25-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by artemis (Post 1106507)
I always found this last meal thing odd.
You're about to be killed, and food is the last thing that you have a say over...


It's a long tradition carried over from Roman times. I think there was also some superstition related to it as well at one point in time. They believed giving a person their last meal before killing them would stop them from haunting the people that would be involved in their death.

This is the menu that the guy turned down after ordering it all:

two chicken-fried steaks with gravy and sliced onions; a triple-patty bacon cheeseburger; a cheese omelet with ground beef, tomatoes, onions, bell peppers and jalapeños; a bowl of fried okra with ketchup; one pound of barbecued meat with half a loaf of white bread; three fajitas; a meat-lover’s pizza; one pint of Blue Bell Ice Cream; a slab of peanut-butter fudge with crushed peanuts; and three root beer.

TheBig3 09-25-2011 07:44 PM

I don't agree with the death penalty precisely for this reason. If you're certain of guilt, then you don't mind reviewing the case. This smells like a rush job to dodge a real evaluation of the justice system in the state.

I think the Federal Government should cut law enforcement funding for next years budget to the state. People are up in arms at the money we send to Pakistan. The same is true of the Federal Tax Dollar being sent to a dilapidated justice system in Georgia.

Queen Boo 09-25-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mykonos (Post 1106001)
Even though I couldn't get any less racist, I'd still be against one being executed by the State. I think it's an immoral practice no matter who takes the chop.

This is completely off topic but that is bull****. You are ingrained with racism just by living in our society.


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