Muslim/Islamic Views on Women

~~Farfisa~~ · 08-26-2011, 11:15 PM

Just something to say before I start. I'm just looking for opinions and personal experience on this subject, please don't let this thread be closed due to hateful comments.

Ok, I've been wondering this for awhile and I've yet to go to an Islamic country or read the Quaran. Are women really viewed as inferior to men in Islamic countries? I've been starting to look into the happenings of the uprisings in the middle east and how women have been treated. There has been a lot of talk of how women have been sexually assaulted and harassed in those countries, but I can't help but feel the fact that there is so much unrest in that part of the world and that leads to crimes against women. Why? I'm not sure, but in third world countries and in countries suffering civil wars there seems to be a lot of sexual assaults and crimes against women.

I've talked to a few Muslims in my life and they seem like everyone else, but with different beliefs. Granted that these conversations and meetings were short, and the ones I've met seemed liked generally happy and good willed. So, is it just the extremists and the general unrest in Islamic countries or is it that they really view women just as objects of sexual desire?

Please, if I've said anything offensive or uneducated, please correct and educate me. I don't want to be a sheep who follows lazily along to whatever the US media says.

djchameleon · 08-27-2011, 02:05 AM

I'm not sure why you would think they view their women as just sexual objects when their women wear that garb. I can't recall the technical name for it now. Do you think their eyes is good enough to say they are going to judge a woman by her looks and treat her like sexual object?

It does appear that they treat their women as inferior but I don't recall reading anything in the Quran that would justify that treatment.

I will double check and edit this post if I find something related to it in my Quran.

Paedantic Basterd · 08-27-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I'm not sure why you would think they view their women as just sexual objects when their women wear that garb. I can't recall the technical name for it now. Do you think their eyes is good enough to say they are going to judge a woman by her looks and treat her like sexual object?

My understanding of this statement is that women wear burquas to shield their bodies from the stares of random men. At home in the presence of family, women dress just as fashionably as women in the countries we're from. They wear the long black garments to protect their beauty from the hungry and wandering eyes of men. Similarly, when it comes to segregation, it's not that women are being segregated in restaurants and things, it's that the single men are. Of course, this is a limited understanding based on very little contact and information with women of the associated religions.

Howard the Duck · 08-27-2011, 02:23 AM

i remember reading some sura's that say you can hit a woman if she gets out of line, and also women are something like cattle, to be owned

well, the syaria' divorce laws are unequal - it's hard for a woman to divorce a man but not vice versa

RVCA · 08-27-2011, 02:28 AM

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djchameleon · 08-27-2011, 02:30 AM

Are you sure? With the whole owning thing it pertains to being in a marriage since the husband is deemed the provider and protector.

Howard the Duck · 08-27-2011, 02:35 AM

you can get rid of cattle pretty fast

Mykonos · 08-27-2011, 03:16 AM

Women are officialy held in equal esteem and importance in Islam. The whole 'but they make them wear burqas and control them!' argument is more partriarchal meddling than religious instruction.

~~Farfisa~~ · 08-27-2011, 03:43 AM

So, it must be the fact that Islamic countries are in a general state of unrest and the fact that women's rights just haven't been established. I'm not talking about burqas and the conservative attire, but the fact that women in the few Islamic countries I've read about aren't able to receive the same schooling as men and aren't able to obtain a driver's license.

Mykonos · 08-27-2011, 04:03 AM

Again, that's more patriarchal oppression, although he Qu'ran can be interpreted as saying that women don't need schooling (I think it lists women as taking up a more inspirational role than an intellectual one. Like the Bible, the Qu'ran is interpreted differently by different people).

08-26-2011, 11:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
~~Farfisa~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,773	Muslim/Islamic Views on Women Just something to say before I start. I'm just looking for opinions and personal experience on this subject, please don't let this thread be closed due to hateful comments. Ok, I've been wondering this for awhile and I've yet to go to an Islamic country or read the Quaran. Are women really viewed as inferior to men in Islamic countries? I've been starting to look into the happenings of the uprisings in the middle east and how women have been treated. There has been a lot of talk of how women have been sexually assaulted and harassed in those countries, but I can't help but feel the fact that there is so much unrest in that part of the world and that leads to crimes against women. Why? I'm not sure, but in third world countries and in countries suffering civil wars there seems to be a lot of sexual assaults and crimes against women. I've talked to a few Muslims in my life and they seem like everyone else, but with different beliefs. Granted that these conversations and meetings were short, and the ones I've met seemed liked generally happy and good willed. So, is it just the extremists and the general unrest in Islamic countries or is it that they really view women just as objects of sexual desire? Please, if I've said anything offensive or uneducated, please correct and educate me. I don't want to be a sheep who follows lazily along to whatever the US media says.

08-27-2011, 03:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	Women are officialy held in equal esteem and importance in Islam. The whole 'but they make them wear burqas and control them!' argument is more partriarchal meddling than religious instruction. __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

08-27-2011, 04:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	Again, that's more patriarchal oppression, although he Qu'ran can be interpreted as saying that women don't need schooling (I think it lists women as taking up a more inspirational role than an intellectual one. Like the Bible, the Qu'ran is interpreted differently by different people). __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

08-27-2011, 02:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
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08-27-2011, 03:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
~~Farfisa~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,773	So, it must be the fact that Islamic countries are in a general state of unrest and the fact that women's rights just haven't been established. I'm not talking about burqas and the conservative attire, but the fact that women in the few Islamic countries I've read about aren't able to receive the same schooling as men and aren't able to obtain a driver's license.