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Old 08-08-2011, 05:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Tarnishing London's image? Apart from the postcard locations this city has been a shíthole for years, and everyone who has lived or does live there knows it. The fact is nothing seems to be getting done to improve it, if anything its getting worse with cuts everywhere. There are no jobs for these people, the alternative (further education) is out of their financial reach, the youth centres where they would have been able to go to do something productive with their time are being closed down. And with it being the summer there are simply a larger number of bored people around.

I'm not going to deny that alot of these people are rioting just because there are riots, but to say this has no agenda is pretty naive (no offence intended). There is alot of frustration at the current situation of life in urban London, anger towards those in charge that its like this, and I daresay fear for the future because these people see nothing but violence around them, with no end in sight - and I dont even mean the riots, I'm talking about the once weekly stabbings that seem to occur.
What you`ve described here could be descriptive of any major world city. I`d say London was as safe a city to live in, as any other comparable city in the first world. The "Broken Britain" tag has been going on for donkey`s years now and I remember it when I was a kid, it just had a different name then. the only difference now, is that the scumbag press really do know how to feed off the fears and paranoia of the general populace.

As for the riots, those over tuition fees did have a sense of genuine anger behind them but I didn`t agree with those riots either, but these current riots are inexcusable and its just senseless and wanton destruction carried out by scumbugs and morons who just want to loot and cause mayhem, the death of the said man was just a an excuse to kick the whole thing off!!!

Strangely enough, I was watching a docu last night about rioting in Paris, which has a far worse history of rioting than London. I use the Paris example as its the only other European city that is comparable to London in terms of size, population, prestige and a similiar diverse ethnic mix.

I`d say as far as big cities go we have it quite good in London and I`ve seen a lot of the big cities in Europe and the World.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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What you`ve described here could be descriptive of any major world city. I`d say London was as safe a city to live in, as any other comparable city in the first world. The "Broken Britain" tag has been going on for donkey`s years now and I remember it when I was a kid, it just had a different name then. the only difference now, is that the scumbag press really do know how to feed off the fears and paranoia of the general populace.

As for the riots, those over tuition fees did have a sense of genuine anger behind them but I didn`t agree with those riots either, but these current riots are inexcusable and its just senseless and wanton destruction carried out by scumbugs and morons who just want to loot and cause mayhem, the death of the said man was just a an excuse to kick the whole thing off!!!

Strangely enough, I was watching a docu last night about rioting in Paris, which has a far worse history of rioting than London. I use the Paris example as its the only other European city that is comparable to London in terms of size, population, prestige and a similiar diverse ethnic mix.

I`d say as far as big cities go we have it quite good in London and I`ve seen a lot of the big cities in Europe and the World.
The Brits need to learn how to riot. this is how you do it.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc..._kpFtQ&cad=rja
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The Brits need to learn how to riot. this is how you do it.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc..._kpFtQ&cad=rja
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:03 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I won't begin to understand or explain the many intricacies that cause people to riot but no matter what is happening as of now I.E the looting of electrical and sports apparel stores, there is no denying the coincidence of the rioting compared to the early 80's when the same political party was in residence.

The rioting taking place ATM is 95% thuggery and an excuse for people to gain spoils but there IS something wrong somewhere in this whole thing.

Saying that we don't live in some tyrannical dictatorship is entirely correct but we as a nation have been fortunate to have not lived in that sort of regime for a long while but does this mean then that we shouldn't have a voice or put up with a clear financial crisis that is genuinely affecting people on street level?

I am NOT justifying these riots whatsoever. I find them deplorable especially after following news channels tonight and finding out that everyday working class people have lost their homes having to flee but skim the fat off the milk regarding the idiots out there for personal gain and you will find there is growing discontent amongst the British public regarding this country.

There is so much wrong with these riots and there is no excuse for them but this is not mere coincidence regarding political times at all.

Is London a safe place overall? Yes? does it have a legitimate place amongst the worlds elite cities in terms of commerce and tourism? Yes. Is it a well organised and productive city? No. It is a mess that just happens to be covered up by the sheer financial presence it can muster.

I do not endorse these riots at all but since Cameron came into power we have returned to the multiple strikes, public protests and riots of the 80's. This is not coincidence and the exact same looting and thuggery was rife then too.
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The Brits need to learn how to riot. this is how you do it.
I don't know..about that? The riots that erupted in Brixton, London in 1981 were some of the worst the UK and the world has ever seen.

Riots display human beings acting at their worst are usually the result of political or social turmoil.

This is "Not a Good Sign" considering the times. I sincerely hope there is nothing to it myself.
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The Brits need to learn how to riot. this is how you do it.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc..._kpFtQ&cad=rja
This sort of post pisses me off. Why does everything have to be made into some sort of comparative competition?

There are all sorts of different reasons for riots with some more justified than others.
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:36 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Matthew Moore - Truly extraordinary speech by fearless West Indian woman in face of #Hackney rioters. Pls watch - Twitvid
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:36 PM   #20 (permalink)
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As far as I'm concerned the events taking place in London are pretty severe. It's scary as hell being here to be honest, we aren't allowed to leave and you can hear bangs, crashes, shouts and sirens constantly. There's a fire that's been raging in Clapham for about two hours now, I can see it's glow from my window and it looks huge.

As for the reasons acting as a catalyst for all of this, I don't know. It's mainly disconnected groups of youths just randomly targeting anywhere and everywhere, I agree that there has to be some sort of underlying resentment driving this behaviour but the manner in which they're going about their business is just mindless and totally reckless. I just can't get my brain around it all, I've seen stuff like this on TV before but never experienced it myself. It's shocking. I'm probably not typing anything of sense at the moment - I'm just... fuck.
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