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Old 08-08-2011, 05:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Brits need to learn how to riot. this is how you do it.
I don't know..about that? The riots that erupted in Brixton, London in 1981 were some of the worst the UK and the world has ever seen.

Riots display human beings acting at their worst are usually the result of political or social turmoil.

This is "Not a Good Sign" considering the times. I sincerely hope there is nothing to it myself.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The Brits need to learn how to riot. this is how you do it.

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This sort of post pisses me off. Why does everything have to be made into some sort of comparative competition?

There are all sorts of different reasons for riots with some more justified than others.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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As far as I'm concerned the events taking place in London are pretty severe. It's scary as hell being here to be honest, we aren't allowed to leave and you can hear bangs, crashes, shouts and sirens constantly. There's a fire that's been raging in Clapham for about two hours now, I can see it's glow from my window and it looks huge.

As for the reasons acting as a catalyst for all of this, I don't know. It's mainly disconnected groups of youths just randomly targeting anywhere and everywhere, I agree that there has to be some sort of underlying resentment driving this behaviour but the manner in which they're going about their business is just mindless and totally reckless. I just can't get my brain around it all, I've seen stuff like this on TV before but never experienced it myself. It's shocking. I'm probably not typing anything of sense at the moment - I'm just... fuck.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This sort of post pisses me off. Why does everything have to be made into some sort of comparative competition?

There are all sorts of different reasons for riots with some more justified than others.
My apologies Jack trying to lighten the mood a bit. Actually the LA riot was nothing but a reason to pillage, loot, and beat up innocent people. Seems like the London riots have a bit of reasoning behind them. Well at least they began that way. Hope everyone remains safe, good day.
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They've gone to Birmingham now. Ironically I'm safe in the most dangerous part of the entire UK right now, but I can't help but wory for my friends and family there. My nan lives in the main area being targeted by rioters.
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It's just pathetic, totally infuriated by the whole pointlessness of it all. A furniture shop in Croydon that has been there for over 70 years, randomly burnt to the ground. That's a family business that's now been left with nothing, because apparently people are just 'bored' and disenchanted with life in London.

We've been told to just lock our windows and doors, we're not allowed to leave because it's 'too dangerous'. Buses and trains have stopped running so people are pretty much stranded in areas overrun with hooded little rats. It's gotten way out of hand and there aren't enough metropolitan police to deal with the problem, so they're having to call reinforcements in from Surrey and Sussex.

I heard it's reached Birmingham and Leeds, that's worrying.

What I'm saying may sound exaggerated to those outside of the trouble, but depressingly it isn't.
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm not trying to justify the riots at all, just trying to point out the frustrations and feelings that would lead people to start behaving like this. Its attention seeking and of course the people who are setting fire to residential buildings are doing the cause no favours whatsoever. There are better methods of raising awareness of how people and their community feel, I havent said otherwise.

But I dont think we should just dismiss the entire situation as just being mindless thuggery, when there were legitimate reasons that led us to this point in time. People do want the opportunities to give themselves a better life, rather than be stuck in the situations they find themselves in, but due to the recession and all of the governments cuts thos opportunities are now severely lacking, and again I'm saying there is an element of fear for the future behind the origins of these riots.

Sadly I think most of the people who care about those reasons arent going to be listened to now because the rioters have basically proved the stereotypes right, that inner city youth in London are all just braindead thugs who are looking to start trouble at every turn.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I won't begin to understand or explain the many intricacies that cause people to riot but no matter what is happening as of now I.E the looting of electrical and sports apparel stores, there is no denying the coincidence of the rioting compared to the early 80's when the same political party was in residence.

The rioting taking place ATM is 95% thuggery and an excuse for people to gain spoils but there IS something wrong somewhere in this whole thing.

Saying that we don't live in some tyrannical dictatorship is entirely correct but we as a nation have been fortunate to have not lived in that sort of regime for a long while but does this mean then that we shouldn't have a voice or put up with a clear financial crisis that is genuinely affecting people on street level?

I am NOT justifying these riots whatsoever. I find them deplorable especially after following news channels tonight and finding out that everyday working class people have lost their homes having to flee but skim the fat off the milk regarding the idiots out there for personal gain and you will find there is growing discontent amongst the British public regarding this country.

There is so much wrong with these riots and there is no excuse for them but this is not mere coincidence regarding political times at all.

Is London a safe place overall? Yes? does it have a legitimate place amongst the worlds elite cities in terms of commerce and tourism? Yes. Is it a well organised and productive city? No. It is a mess that just happens to be covered up by the sheer financial presence it can muster.

I do not endorse these riots at all but since Cameron came into power we have returned to the multiple strikes, public protests and riots of the 80's. This is not coincidence and the exact same looting and thuggery was rife then too.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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