London riots

Ben Butler · 08-20-2011, 06:01 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ee-appeal.html

Excuse me using the Daily Mail. This is good news, the first of many hopefully.

Cameron would be better placed using schemes such as 'Boston's Operation Ceasefire', where they introduce gangs to their victims, help them find a job providing they abide by the law. If they don't, they will come down hard on them. It has proven succesful in reducing gang related crime.

The right wing press and Cameron are really annoying me with their denial that poverty is at the heart of this. Currently, The Times are deliberately reporting stories of people from decent backgrounds with a good education and jobs being involved with the rioting. For instance, the student from Exeter University or Olympic ambassador. It fits their agenda, it makes it look like that people from the deprived backgrounds are not at the heart of these riots, when infact they very much are.

There is a story in todays Times, about a town in middle England with very much middle class backgrounds being effected by the riots. Yes, anything to divert the attention from the people that really need the help!

Oh, and apparently some inmates have already been attacked in these prisons! Lol

The Monkey · 08-20-2011, 06:31 AM

Oh please. These harsh punishment maybe will enough to wet the pants of certain Tories, but it will never solve the long-term causes behind the riots. The rioters are idiots, no doubt about it, but even if you try to deny it, the fact remains that there are underlying causes behind them, and harsh prison sentences will only enforce them. It will alienate the youth further from society and the established political process, and increases the likelihood for similar riots to flame up again. That is assuming your goal is to prevent further riots, rather than just primitive desires for revenge. And studies have repeatedly shown that harsh prison sentences doesn't reduce crime, as shown clearly with the case of the US.

Mykonos · 08-20-2011, 02:34 PM

Thank you Monkey, thank you. You've manage to basically say what I'm too awkward to say.

FETCHER. · 08-20-2011, 03:14 PM

Life would probably be easier on benefits or in jail anyway. You walk out of jail with a trade and everything these days. It's ****ing ludicrous. Jail isn't a punishment anymore. Well not here anyway.

Unknown Soldier · 08-20-2011, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurora

Jail isn't a punishment anymore. Well not here anyway.

I reckon they should start sending them to Australia again and make them settle in the Aussie heartland............nice and warm there!

Mykonos · 08-20-2011, 04:03 PM

I think sending convicts to Australia might make them realise how lucky they are to have a native ecology that isn't designed to kill humans as efficiently as poss... NO! What am I saying? Fines and GTFO, then the govvies waking up and trying to find a way to engage with the downtrodden masses. Not deportation.

Vurse · 08-23-2011, 10:10 AM

So much for us British being reserved....

08-20-2011, 06:31 AM	#102 (permalink)
The Monkey Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 803	Oh please. These harsh punishment maybe will enough to wet the pants of certain Tories, but it will never solve the long-term causes behind the riots. The rioters are idiots, no doubt about it, but even if you try to deny it, the fact remains that there are underlying causes behind them, and harsh prison sentences will only enforce them. It will alienate the youth further from society and the established political process, and increases the likelihood for similar riots to flame up again. That is assuming your goal is to prevent further riots, rather than just primitive desires for revenge. And studies have repeatedly shown that harsh prison sentences doesn't reduce crime, as shown clearly with the case of the US. __________________ Now another stranger seems to want you to ignore his dreams as though they were the burden of some other My Last.fm

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Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	Thank you Monkey, thank you. You've manage to basically say what I'm too awkward to say. __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

08-20-2011, 04:03 PM	#106 (permalink)
Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	I think sending convicts to Australia might make them realise how lucky they are to have a native ecology that isn't designed to kill humans as efficiently as poss... NO! What am I saying? Fines and GTFO, then the govvies waking up and trying to find a way to engage with the downtrodden masses. Not deportation. __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

08-20-2011, 06:01 AM	#101 (permalink)
Ben Butler Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rudheath Posts: 393	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ee-appeal.html Excuse me using the Daily Mail. This is good news, the first of many hopefully. Cameron would be better placed using schemes such as 'Boston's Operation Ceasefire', where they introduce gangs to their victims, help them find a job providing they abide by the law. If they don't, they will come down hard on them. It has proven succesful in reducing gang related crime. The right wing press and Cameron are really annoying me with their denial that poverty is at the heart of this. Currently, The Times are deliberately reporting stories of people from decent backgrounds with a good education and jobs being involved with the rioting. For instance, the student from Exeter University or Olympic ambassador. It fits their agenda, it makes it look like that people from the deprived backgrounds are not at the heart of these riots, when infact they very much are. There is a story in todays Times, about a town in middle England with very much middle class backgrounds being effected by the riots. Yes, anything to divert the attention from the people that really need the help! Oh, and apparently some inmates have already been attacked in these prisons! Lol

08-23-2011, 10:10 AM	#107 (permalink)
Vurse Groupie Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 7	So much for us British being reserved....