Attacks in Norway

Kinda Blue · 07-27-2011, 04:59 PM

There is a possibility he could be sentenced to thirty years in prison, if the police charges him for crimes against humanity.

Shoebox · 07-28-2011, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

That's what I've been seeing in this thread. That's sad to hear. He should never be free again, maybe Norway will take a look at their sentencing guidelines/laws after something like this. I doubt it, but I hope they do.

It is correct that the maximum determinate penalty is 21 years, but it is still possible to receive lifetime imprisonment by a penalty called containment (forvaring in Norwegian). If the prisoner is still considered a danger to society and likely to commit more crimes after serving his original sentence, the prisoner gets five years additional containment. And then five more years, five more years etc.

Finding the right words is difficult for me. The bombing and massacre saddens me deeply but still I can't even imagine how it must be for the victims and the people who lost their loved ones. I'm confused and frightened: I honestly didn't believe there could exist so much evil and hate in a person. It's inhuman, impossible. But is still happened.

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Originally Posted by tore

The aftermath of what happened has been wonderful and honestly quite moving. I've yet to see any cries for vengeance. Instead of focusing on how to punish this man, people seem more focused on helping and supporting eachother. Even if the tragedy has caused tremendous sorrow, it has also roused great compassion, love and care for one another in a way that warms my heart. Both the people and the politicians here have dealt with it in a most dignified way and no doubt the reaction to what was done will be more democracy and greater political participation against that kind of extremist ideology.

I very much agree. I'm proud of how Norway as a nation has handled and responded to this tragedy.

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Originally Posted by tore

Still, all is not well. There is one thing that shames me and that is that just after the bombing before there were any explanations, a lot of people assumed that it was extremist muslims who were behind it. Sensationalist media, also international media, no doubt played a role in this. In the first hours after the tragedy, there were quite a few muslims who feared for their and their children's future in Norway and there were people who threw racist and offensive comments after immigrants after the explosion. I hope the people who did this have taken some time to reflect on that now and hopefully the tragedy will help bring us all closer together, regardless of religion, cultural background or the colour of our skin.

I can't help but feel slightly relieved that this wasn't an extremist muslim attack. The degree of discrimination and prejudices towards foreigners it would have caused is a frightening thought.

BastardofYoung · 07-28-2011, 12:48 PM

Morrissey says McDonalds and KFC are worse then the Norway Massacre.

Morrissey: 'McDonald's, KFC worse than Norway massacre' - Showbiz News - Digital Spy

Not quite on the level of Glen Beck comparing it to the Hitler Youth. But close..

~~Dirty~~ · 07-28-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

Morrissey says McDonalds and KFC are worse then the Norway Massacre.

Morrissey: 'McDonald's, KFC worse than Norway massacre' - Showbiz News - Digital Spy

Not quite on the level of Glen Beck comparing it to the Hitler Youth. But close..

I actually think this comment is worse than Beck's. Even though I think Beck is a douche, I think I understand what he was saying. It was just insensitive. Morissey is a tool and an idiot and his comment proves that pretty well.

TheBig3 · 08-01-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

That's what I've been seeing in this thread. That's sad to hear. He should never be free again, maybe Norway will take a look at their sentencing guidelines/laws after something like this. I doubt it, but I hope they do.

Also, brief comments about other things in this thread. Glen Beck is a real life troll, that's why he is on tv. He loves hearing his name said or seeing it in print, and it doesn't matter to him for what reason.

Revenge isn't as horrible as people make it sound. Everyone wants revenge when something terrible happens, it's just politics in what they want to say to the public

they might have actual correction facilities over there...as opposed to jail.

Guybrush · 08-02-2011, 04:26 AM

The murderer actually wants Norway to adopt harsher punishment as a result for his actions. It's not something I want personally, the system we have has suited us well. Needless to say, the murderer Anders Behring Breivik was prepared and expected to die when he did what he did, either from getting shot by the cops or from getting murdered by someone else as revenge. Harsher punishment would not have prevented what happened.

Neither is revenge something I want. Anders Behring Breivik spending eternity in jail or even recieving a death sentence wouldn't undo any of the things he did. Personally, I hope he recieves a fair trial and as for his punishment, what I would like the most (even if it's highly unlikely) is for him to become rehabilitated so that he better understands the tragic consequences of what he's done.

chiron · 08-02-2011, 10:06 AM

^^ too bad there is no like button on mb.

The Batlord · 08-02-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

The murderer actually wants Norway to adopt harsher punishment as a result for his actions. It's not something I want personally, the system we have has suited us well. Needless to say, the murderer Anders Behring Breivik was prepared and expected to die when he did what he did, either from getting shot by the cops or from getting murdered by someone else as revenge. Harsher punishment would not have prevented what happened.

Neither is revenge something I want. Anders Behring Breivik spending eternity in jail or even recieving a death sentence wouldn't undo any of the things he did. Personally, I hope he recieves a fair trial and as for his punishment, what I would like the most (even if it's highly unlikely) is for him to become rehabilitated so that he better understands the tragic consequences of what he's done.

Seconded. I don't think being more like America's system is the answer. The other way around would be nice though.

Ilistentomusic · 08-07-2011, 11:59 AM

I don't understand this music video, is this supposed to be a joke?

‪Norway massacre tribute, Oslo shootings remembered Utoya killings killer Anders Behring Breivik‬&rlm; - YouTube

And if so why is it called a "tribute" video?

Or is it all supposed to be "tongue-in-cheek"?

Buzzov*en · 08-10-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

The murderer actually wants Norway to adopt harsher punishment as a result for his actions. It's not something I want personally, the system we have has suited us well. Needless to say, the murderer Anders Behring Breivik was prepared and expected to die when he did what he did, either from getting shot by the cops or from getting murdered by someone else as revenge. Harsher punishment would not have prevented what happened.

Neither is revenge something I want. Anders Behring Breivik spending eternity in jail or even recieving a death sentence wouldn't undo any of the things he did. Personally, I hope he recieves a fair trial and as for his punishment, what I would like the most (even if it's highly unlikely) is for him to become rehabilitated so that he better understands the tragic consequences of what he's done.

Well said bro. For once I agree with you well for once I agree with you and will say I agree with you.

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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	The murderer actually wants Norway to adopt harsher punishment as a result for his actions. It's not something I want personally, the system we have has suited us well. Needless to say, the murderer Anders Behring Breivik was prepared and expected to die when he did what he did, either from getting shot by the cops or from getting murdered by someone else as revenge. Harsher punishment would not have prevented what happened. Neither is revenge something I want. Anders Behring Breivik spending eternity in jail or even recieving a death sentence wouldn't undo any of the things he did. Personally, I hope he recieves a fair trial and as for his punishment, what I would like the most (even if it's highly unlikely) is for him to become rehabilitated so that he better understands the tragic consequences of what he's done. __________________ Something Completely Different

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Ilistentomusic Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 109	I don't understand this music video, is this supposed to be a joke? ‪Norway massacre tribute, Oslo shootings remembered Utoya killings killer Anders Behring Breivik‬&rlm; - YouTube And if so why is it called a "tribute" video? Or is it all supposed to be "tongue-in-cheek"? __________________ Richard: Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels? Barry: NO!! ....the Righteous Brothers. Richard: Well, never mind. Barry: No, not never mind. You tell me right now. What's wrong with the Righteous Brothers? Richard: Nothing, I just prefer the other.... Barry: BULLCRAP!!! Rob: How can it be "bullcrap" to state a preference????