The Monkey

"Vilify America again"? The **** are you talking about? I'm sure the American people has just as much love in their hearts as the Norwegians, but the post-9/11 foreign policy of the US points to interests quite opposed those of extending love. But I would never intend to offend anyone targeted in 9/11, and I'm not sure why you took it so personally, as I was talking specifically about Bush.

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djchameleon

I didn't take it personally, it just seemed like you were comparing slightly different parts of it. Yes, I know Bush was on his little revenge spree post 9/11 and that got the most press on an international level but there heartfelt moments as well that came out of 9/11 that I decided to tell you about because maybe you didn't know that it happened.

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TheBig3

Gentlemen, this isn't a thread for international diplomacy, Bush, or the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

When I heard about what happened, I was shocked for the singular reason that it happened in Scandinavia. Maybe that's a generalization, and I'm sure the citizens of those three countries could cite multiple differences between each nation. But to an American, Scandinavia is always being portrayed as the best of what Europe has to offer.

Insert all of the IKEA jokes you want, but its true. They are routinely cited for their policies on gender equality, tolerance to immigrants and in general, and the model for how many states hope to engage their residents in a post-Industrial area.

Then I heard why the shooter did what he did and I remarked to a friend "I think Norway (and the region in general) just became closer to America than even England."

The idea that racial purity and perfect genetics matters is thankfully still foreign here (though, I've seen your women - I understand how that position comes about), but the end results are sadly still the same. If its not Timothy McVeigh or Jared Loughner, then its David Duke or Tom Tancredo. Mental illness gives way to political motivation and conspiracy theories. How long did the John Birch Society hold sway on the American Right before being exiled by an emerging libertarian movement?

There is little I can really say to comfort the people of Norway. In fact, I've probably offended them more by comparing them to the U.S., but I can say, as an American, out of this great tragedy will emerge a much stronger people and country. It is a sad reality that only when things push beyond our level of tolerance can we really hope to change and fix them. Today Norway grieves. But in due time, the wounds will become scar tissue. And while they may be visible for years and years to come, they will, at the very least, be reminders of how a people survived and become stronger as a nation. Maybe it will be opportunities to warn officials of someone heading down the wrong track, or more security measures available at a moments notice, I couldn't possibly say. But while it sounds counter intuitive, the Norwegians will like create a stronger, safer country for its children today, and with hope, a stronger network to deal with those who's reality is slipping away.

All I can really say is God Bless, and God Speed.

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Scarlett O'Hara

I am so disgusted by this guy. I hope he gets what he deserves. God bless the families of the people killed.

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This guys makes me sick. His whole reasoning for the attacks is to get people to read his anti-Islam manifesto. How do you kill people in the name of your religion in order to get people to realize that another religion is wrong? (Obviously a rhetorical question)

Buzzov*en

Crazy ****. Remember hearing about this from a friend who was supposed to head over to Norway to visit some friends.

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TheBig3

Was it a religion-based thing? What I read was some ridiculous interview with himself and it sounded like it was a "pure europe" thing.

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Janszoon

From what I've read it sounds like a little of both.

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TockTockTock

They don't have a death penalty over there. Also, I think the maximum prison sentence is 21 years, but I could be wrong.

I remember when he was going to kill a rabbit with a chainsaw on national television... Apparently, it had something to do with America's economy.

Dirty

That's what I've been seeing in this thread. That's sad to hear. He should never be free again, maybe Norway will take a look at their sentencing guidelines/laws after something like this. I doubt it, but I hope they do.


Also, brief comments about other things in this thread. Glen Beck is a real life troll, that's why he is on tv. He loves hearing his name said or seeing it in print, and it doesn't matter to him for what reason.

Revenge isn't as horrible as people make it sound. Everyone wants revenge when something terrible happens, it's just politics in what they want to say to the public