Attacks in Norway

The Batlord · 07-23-2011, 11:47 AM

Jesus! I had no idea about any of this until I clicked on the thread! WTF?!

captaincaptain · 07-25-2011, 11:32 PM

Glenn Beck, what a class act.

Glenn Beck hits 'new low'; compares Norway victims to Hitler Youth - latimes.com

**Janszoon** · 07-26-2011, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain

Glenn Beck, what a class act.

Glenn Beck hits 'new low'; compares Norway victims to Hitler Youth - latimes.com

Man, what a fucking asshole.

~~Farfisa~~ · 07-26-2011, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain

Glenn Beck, what a class act.

Glenn Beck hits 'new low'; compares Norway victims to Hitler Youth - latimes.com

I wish someone would break his jaw, he has no right to use a mouth.

Sneer · 07-26-2011, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain

Glenn Beck, what a class act.

Glenn Beck hits 'new low'; compares Norway victims to Hitler Youth - latimes.com

Tasteless.

An absolutely terrible set of events in Norway, cannot even begin to imagine what the friends and families of those lost must be going through. If I ever saw that lunatic in public I'd commit an atrocity of my own.

djchameleon · 07-26-2011, 06:34 AM

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I wish someone would break his jaw, he has no right to use a mouth.

yes I agree!

Guybrush · 07-26-2011, 06:47 AM

What happened is so awful people can't really get their heads around it. This person dressed up as a police officer, asked teenagers to group up and then opened fire on them with an automatic rifle, killing dozens. He then proceeded to hunting down the ones who got away, calling for them to come out of hiding only to shoot them and even killing kids in the water who were trying to swim away from the island where it happened. It shocks and scares me that people exist here that are capable of committing such atrocities. The murderer is a politically motivated racist who says his enemy is social democracy and particularly the labour party which he's blamed for "mass importing" muslims to Norway which is why he decided to target members of the labour party youth. He wanted to use the ensuing trial as a stage to promote his ideology.

The aftermath of what happened has been wonderful and honestly quite moving. I've yet to see any cries for vengeance. Instead of focusing on how to punish this man, people seem more focused on helping and supporting eachother. Even if the tragedy has caused tremendous sorrow, it has also roused great compassion, love and care for one another in a way that warms my heart. Both the people and the politicians here have dealt with it in a most dignified way and no doubt the reaction to what was done will be more democracy and greater political participation against that kind of extremist ideology.

Still, all is not well. There is one thing that shames me and that is that just after the bombing before there were any explanations, a lot of people assumed that it was extremist muslims who were behind it. Sensationalist media, also international media, no doubt played a role in this. In the first hours after the tragedy, there were quite a few muslims who feared for their and their children's future in Norway and there were people who threw racist and offensive comments after immigrants after the explosion. I hope the people who did this have taken some time to reflect on that now and hopefully the tragedy will help bring us all closer together, regardless of religion, cultural background or the colour of our skin.

The Monkey · 07-26-2011, 08:20 AM

It's very moving how much the Norwegians have come together after this. While Bush after 9/11 screamed of revenge and a "crusade" against those guilty, the Norwegian people and politicians speak of extending love towards one another, and of reinforcing their commitment to all those things that make Norway one the best places in the world: humanity, democracy and tolerance. It's a ****ing honour being your neighbours.

It was also wonderful to see how people reacted in Sweden to what happened. People cried in the streets. A friend of mine was at a football game with 20,000 people, and during the silent minute in honour of the shooting victims, you could've heard a pin drop. It's as though this happened in our own country.

This picture is from a ceremony in honour of the victims in Oslo yesterday, where 150,000-200,000 people participated (in a city of 600,000!):

Kinda Blue · 07-26-2011, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain

Glenn Beck, what a class act.

Glenn Beck hits 'new low'; compares Norway victims to Hitler Youth - latimes.com

Oh dear, some of the Facebook-comments at the bottom of the article.

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Originally Posted by tore

What happened is so awful people can't really get their heads around it. This person dressed up as a police officer, asked teenagers to group up and then opened fire on them with an automatic rifle, killing dozens. He then proceeded to hunting down the ones who got away, calling for them to come out of hiding only to shoot them and even killing kids in the water who were trying to swim away from the island where it happened. It shocks and scares me that people exist here that are capable of committing such atrocities. The murderer is a politically motivated racist who says his enemy is social democracy and particularly the labour party which he's blamed for "mass importing" muslims to Norway which is why he decided to target members of the labour party youth. He wanted to use the ensuing trial as a stage to promote his ideology.

The aftermath of what happened has been wonderful and honestly quite moving. I've yet to see any cries for vengeance. Instead of focusing on how to punish this man, people seem more focused on helping and supporting eachother. Even if the tragedy has caused tremendous sorrow, it has also roused great compassion, love and care for one another in a way that warms my heart. Both the people and the politicians here have dealt with it in a most dignified way and no doubt the reaction to what was done will be more democracy and greater political participation against that kind of extremist ideology.

Still, all is not well. There is one thing that shames me and that is that just after the bombing before there were any explanations, a lot of people assumed that it was extremist muslims who were behind it. Sensationalist media, also international media, no doubt played a role in this. In the first hours after the tragedy, there were quite a few muslims who feared for their and their children's future in Norway and there were people who threw racist and offensive comments after immigrants after the explosion. I hope the people who did this have taken some time to reflect on that now and hopefully the tragedy will help bring us all closer together, regardless of religion, cultural background or the colour of our skin.

I agree with everything written here. Especially the speech crown prince Haakon held yesterday was moving.

djchameleon · 07-26-2011, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey

It's very moving how much the Norwegians have come together after this. While Bush after 9/11 screamed of revenge and a "crusade" against those guilty, the Norwegian people and politicians speak of extending love towards one another, and of reinforcing their commitment to all those things that make Norway one the best places in the world: humanity, democracy and tolerance. It's a ****ing honour being your neighbours.

It was also wonderful to see how people reacted in Sweden to what happened. People cried in the streets. A friend of mine was at a football game with 20,000 people, and during the silent minute in honour of the shooting victims, you could've heard a pin drop. It's as though this happened in our own country.

You weren't in NY around that time or maybe you just choose to vilify America again but the mayor of NYC had similar profound words to say about what happened on 9/11 and to have people resume their lives as usual to show terrorists that what happened isn't going to affect them in a negative light.

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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	What happened is so awful people can't really get their heads around it. This person dressed up as a police officer, asked teenagers to group up and then opened fire on them with an automatic rifle, killing dozens. He then proceeded to hunting down the ones who got away, calling for them to come out of hiding only to shoot them and even killing kids in the water who were trying to swim away from the island where it happened. It shocks and scares me that people exist here that are capable of committing such atrocities. The murderer is a politically motivated racist who says his enemy is social democracy and particularly the labour party which he's blamed for "mass importing" muslims to Norway which is why he decided to target members of the labour party youth. He wanted to use the ensuing trial as a stage to promote his ideology. The aftermath of what happened has been wonderful and honestly quite moving. I've yet to see any cries for vengeance. Instead of focusing on how to punish this man, people seem more focused on helping and supporting eachother. Even if the tragedy has caused tremendous sorrow, it has also roused great compassion, love and care for one another in a way that warms my heart. Both the people and the politicians here have dealt with it in a most dignified way and no doubt the reaction to what was done will be more democracy and greater political participation against that kind of extremist ideology. Still, all is not well. There is one thing that shames me and that is that just after the bombing before there were any explanations, a lot of people assumed that it was extremist muslims who were behind it. Sensationalist media, also international media, no doubt played a role in this. In the first hours after the tragedy, there were quite a few muslims who feared for their and their children's future in Norway and there were people who threw racist and offensive comments after immigrants after the explosion. I hope the people who did this have taken some time to reflect on that now and hopefully the tragedy will help bring us all closer together, regardless of religion, cultural background or the colour of our skin. __________________ Something Completely Different

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The Monkey Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 803	It's very moving how much the Norwegians have come together after this. While Bush after 9/11 screamed of revenge and a "crusade" against those guilty, the Norwegian people and politicians speak of extending love towards one another, and of reinforcing their commitment to all those things that make Norway one the best places in the world: humanity, democracy and tolerance. It's a ***ing honour being your neighbours. It was also wonderful to see how people reacted in Sweden to what happened. People cried in the streets. A friend of mine was at a football game with 20,000 people, and during the silent minute in honour of the shooting victims, you could've heard a pin drop. It's as though this happened in our own country. This picture is from a ceremony in honour of the victims in Oslo yesterday, where 150,000-200,000 people participated (in a city of 600,000!): __________________ Now another stranger seems to want you to ignore his dreams as though they were the burden of some other* My Last.fm Last edited by The Monkey; 07-26-2011 at 08:25 AM.