Casey Anthony Found Not Guilty.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 07-08-2011, 12:03 PM

Everytime a cute white girl is murdered I am the ******* who brings it up, absolutely. I'm sorry if it's insensitive, but I don't care about Caylee or Haylee or Mary-Beth when children are murdered every single day around the world. Not to mention it's difficult for anbody to get a fair trial in a media storm, so it's doubly perturbing to see frenzies around cases like this one.

Freebase Dali · 07-08-2011, 04:51 PM

Perturbing frenzies.

My work here is done.

djchameleon · 07-08-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Interesting that nobody really has mentioned this. I don't think I can remember a murder case getting that much media coverage that wasn't about a cute, white girl. I guess nobody wants to be the ******* to bring it up when a cute, white girl has actually been murdered. Still, I would like to see some comment on the media cynically cashing in on someone's death while ignoring others.

They know which side of the bread they get buttered on.

Of course they are going to cash in while the goods are hot and people are generally more interested in said topic.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 07-08-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Perturbing frenzies.

My work here is done.

My vocabulary is monolithic.

Freebase Dali · 07-08-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

My vocabulary is monolithic.

You got the mono part right.
So sleazy, you don't even need to kiss asses.

~~Dirty~~ · 07-10-2011, 08:52 PM

I was hoping for the death penalty. She really is a piece of trash in human form. She is scum and I wish nothing but the worst for her in the future. The prosecution wasn't good in this case, but it was still ridiculously obvious that she killed her daughter. I think anyone who buys the drowning in a swimming pool story is a moron to be honest.

The defense came up with ridiculous stories and reasons for things that happened but the prosecution missed the boat and couldn't pin any forensics or anything on her. If I was a juror, I'd probably just say fuck it and say she was guilty just because it was pretty obvious.

Of course Facebook blew up over this, and to quote a facebook friend: "Glad to see all of you are crying over a dumb trial. You're all blind to the million other atrocities that happen every single day. If you weren't so ignorant, you'd realize this is just another day in the life of human beings"

Attitudes like this just piss me off... it's like, there's so many murders and crimes committed every day, there is no possible way that anybody could come close to even hearing about half these cases. And I feel like people have this attitude that people who have an opinion on big media cases are idiots or something. Like they aren't valid because they don't care as much about some other random death.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 07-10-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

I was hoping for the death penalty. She really is a piece of trash in human form. She is scum and I wish nothing but the worst for her in the future. The prosecution wasn't good in this case, but it was still ridiculously obvious that she killed her daughter. I think anyone who buys the drowning in a swimming pool story is a moron to be honest.

The defense came up with ridiculous stories and reasons for things that happened but the prosecution missed the boat and couldn't pin any forensics or anything on her. If I was a juror, I'd probably just say fuck it and say she was guilty just because it was pretty obvious.

Of course Facebook blew up over this, and to quote a facebook friend: "Glad to see all of you are crying over a dumb trial. You're all blind to the million other atrocities that happen every single day. If you weren't so ignorant, you'd realize this is just another day in the life of human beings"

Attitudes like this just piss me off... it's like, there's so many murders and crimes committed every day, there is no possible way that anybody could come close to even hearing about half these cases. And I feel like people have this attitude that people who have an opinion on big media cases are idiots or something. Like they aren't valid because they don't care as much about some other random death.

I have to take issue with several things you just said.

1. Why would you hope for the death penalty? Why would you ever hope to see another human being die? If she was convicted of killing her daughter, which by the way she wasn't, she'd be put in jail for killing another human being. Why would it make sense to kill her? Aren't we punishing her for killing? If she's in jail she's obviously not a threat to other people's lives, so why hypocritically kill her? What's the purpose? Some misplaced sense of revenge and justice? Surely you can see the logical fallacy of pursuing the death penalty on a case like this.

2. "Being pretty obvious" doesn't mean feck to me if there's no forensics. It's my opinion that without solid forensic evidence (and in this particular case there was no forensic evidence) there absolutely shouldn't be a conviction. Why would you risk somebody's entire life on circumstances? You mention "pinning" forensics on her as if you were just desperate for them to convict her. But a trial is about finding truth, not convicting people.

3. I happen to believe that the defense was probably right in the accident theory. There's absolutely no motive whatsoever (she wanted to party? give me a break, that's a stock motive as old as U.S. law itself) and that coupled with the lack of forensics leads me to believe it was definitely the right thing to not convict her. The media was thirsty for a conviction and whittled public opinion down with continual assassinations of character. But being an ***hole doesn't make you a murderer.

I think people seem to forget that you're Innocent Until Proven Guilty, not Guilty Until Proven Guilty. And if a court of law can't prove you guilty, you're innocent. Regardless of my, your, and anyone's personal opinion, you are innocent.

As regards people's attitude of "why care when there's so many atrocities?" I ask you, why do you care? I can understand feeling sympathetic or angry that a child had been murdered, but what is it about a child you've never met, never even heard about while she was alive, that stirs such emotion in people? Why do they care? It seems like people are treating this as a subconscious form of entertainment, or to put it better a mild diversion that they can watch from their homes, feel emotion about and distract them from their own little white kids.

~~Dirty~~ · 07-10-2011, 09:29 PM

I have to take issue with several things you just said.

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1. Why would you hope for the death penalty? Why would you ever hope to see another human being die? If she was convicted of killing her daughter, which by the way she wasn't, she'd be put in jail for killing another human being. Why would it make sense to kill her? Aren't we punishing her for killing? If she's in jail she's obviously not a threat to other people's lives, so why hypocritically kill her? What's the purpose? Some misplaced sense of revenge and justice? Surely you can see the logical fallacy of pursuing the death penalty on a case like this.

I believe in the death penalty in obvious situations and I was hoping/assuming this case would pretty open and shut. I think she's complete trash and don't want her a part of this earth. Hell, if you can kill your own daughter and go party afterwards, I don't want to trust you to be a safe person around staff or inmates. Basically there is no benefit of having her on this planet, she is scum as a person, and I don't give a shit and wouldn't mind if she dropped dead tomorrow.

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2. "Being pretty obvious" doesn't mean feck to me if there's no forensics. It's my opinion that without solid forensic evidence (and in this particular case there was no forensic evidence) there absolutely shouldn't be a conviction. Why would you risk somebody's entire life on circumstances? You mention "pinning" forensics on her as if you were just desperate for them to convict her. But a trial is about finding truth, not convicting people.

In that case, I believe this trial failed very hard then. So what do you think Conan? Did she do it or not?

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3. I happen to believe that the defense was probably right in the accident theory. There's absolutely no motive whatsoever (she wanted to party? give me a break, that's a stock motive as old as U.S. law itself) and that coupled with the lack of forensics leads me to believe it was definitely the right thing to not convict her. The media was thirsty for a conviction and whittled public opinion down with continual assassinations of character. But being an ***hole doesn't make you a murderer.

Well nevermind the question I just asked then. I can't believe anyone would believe that bogus story, especially someone like you who seems like a pretty smart guy. It's such a ridiculous story given the circumstances... She drown in a pool accident so she duct taped her mouth, threw her in the trunk and dumped her body and didn't report it ever happened?? And just coincidentally was also seaching "neck breaking" and for chloroform? Let's put 2 and 2 together here.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 07-11-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

I have to take issue with several things you just said.

I believe in the death penalty in obvious situations and I was hoping/assuming this case would pretty open and shut. I think she's complete trash and don't want her a part of this earth. Hell, if you can kill your own daughter and go party afterwards, I don't want to trust you to be a safe person around staff or inmates. Basically there is no benefit of having her on this planet, she is scum as a person, and I don't give a shit and wouldn't mind if she dropped dead tomorrow.

You do realise there are worse crimes people have been put in jail for that's worse than killing a child and dumping the body. Are you saying everyone who's committed abhorrent crimes should be killed? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of justice? Why should they get to die quickly and not suffer over a lengthy period, to live with their crime for the rest of their lives? There's much worse punishments than death.

~~Dirty~~ · 07-11-2011, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

You do realise there are worse crimes people have been put in jail for that's worse than killing a child and dumping the body. Are you saying everyone who's committed abhorrent crimes should be killed? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of justice? Why should they get to die quickly and not suffer over a lengthy period, to live with their crime for the rest of their lives? There's much worse punishments than death.

Ideally I'd like to see the prison system more for rehabilitation. People who commit abhorrent crimes should just be put to death IMO. They end up spending their lives in the pen, finding ways to hurt staff and other people.

If they really, truly wanted to kill themselves in prison, they could do it. Fact is, prison life isn't bad enough for most people to want to off themselves. Prisons are over crowded as hell anyways. I say off the worst criminals who give this world nothing but terrible things and give their cells to other convicts.

and yes, I do realize worse crimes have happened, thanks for asking

07-08-2011, 12:03 PM	#41 (permalink)
~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	Everytime a cute white girl is murdered I am the ******* who brings it up, absolutely. I'm sorry if it's insensitive, but I don't care about Caylee or Haylee or Mary-Beth when children are murdered every single day around the world. Not to mention it's difficult for anbody to get a fair trial in a media storm, so it's doubly perturbing to see frenzies around cases like this one.

07-08-2011, 04:51 PM	#42 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	Perturbing frenzies. My work here is done.

07-10-2011, 08:52 PM	#46 (permalink)
~~Dirty~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 981	I was hoping for the death penalty. She really is a piece of trash in human form. She is scum and I wish nothing but the worst for her in the future. The prosecution wasn't good in this case, but it was still ridiculously obvious that she killed her daughter. I think anyone who buys the drowning in a swimming pool story is a moron to be honest. The defense came up with ridiculous stories and reasons for things that happened but the prosecution missed the boat and couldn't pin any forensics or anything on her. If I was a juror, I'd probably just say fuck it and say she was guilty just because it was pretty obvious. Of course Facebook blew up over this, and to quote a facebook friend: "Glad to see all of you are crying over a dumb trial. You're all blind to the million other atrocities that happen every single day. If you weren't so ignorant, you'd realize this is just another day in the life of human beings" Attitudes like this just piss me off... it's like, there's so many murders and crimes committed every day, there is no possible way that anybody could come close to even hearing about half these cases. And I feel like people have this attitude that people who have an opinion on big media cases are idiots or something. Like they aren't valid because they don't care as much about some other random death.