Do Women Get Equal Pay?
 

Currently among many countries there is a wage gap between women and men. Should this gap be filled? Does a monthly "sickness" or heavy menstruation cause reduced productivity by women taking days off, including for pregnancy and looking after sick children. This topic that comes from this scandal in New Zealand where CEO Alasdair Thompson stated that women take more days off then men for the reasons above, which is bad for productivity which is why they are paid less.

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Oh and enjoy the way he treats the female reporter in the last 4-5 minutes if you want a laugh.

But it is a serious question, particular for men, do you agree with this? Or do you support equal work = equal pay.

Equal work, equal pay, of course. I'd be aghast to see anybody disagree.

Well after seeing a fossil like that I don't think I'd even be suprised.

That Alasdair Thompson was a penis gobbling, arsehat when he was mayor of Thames.........Nothing's changed

Ok well i'll spice things up a little bit and say that women ABSOLOUTLEY DO...................deserve equal pay for equal work. Heh even the biggest of dickheads in the world should still be fair. Their hourly rate or yearly salary has nothing to do with the amount of days they miss for personal reasons. If they are qualified to perform and meet the criteria for the job they were hired for, then they deserve the pay anyone else would receive.

yes.

I do not think I need to say more. Just yes.

Equal work - equal pay, and everyone gets x amount of sick days per year. If anyone goes over that amoount, they won't get paid. Its pretty much the same as the other thread you started, if certain peoople get different benefits with their job, then I'd expect the pay scales to be different to make up for that difference

Equal compensation for equal work, absolutely. And people need to understand that that cuts both ways.

If the work is equal, then yes of course the pay should be equal. When you see men and women in the same position, but the men being paid more - it's crazy.

of course equal work should always mean equal pay.
if both Adam and Eve worked very hard, both of them should be paid fairly because of their work output, not because of their sex.

Of course.

In entertainment things are different, it should be on the basis of how much of an audience someone draws. Female tennis players managed to get away with being paid the same as men even though fewer people are actually interested in them. They managed to do this by being on the same tour as the men and insisting that they have to get the same prize money from whoever sponsors the event. If they were on a separate tour though they would have to fund the prize money purely on their own game and would get less for sure.

Yes, they may deserve it but the reality of the situation is they won't.

Women will be paid slightly less than men regardless.

Edit: I just finished watching that video and that reporter was dense and they shouldn't have had her doing the interview because she couldn't be objective about it. She was too emotional and taking it personal because she was offended by his comments which is unprofessional

I actually feel sorry for the guy having to answer questions from a woman who thinks she can just walk into a job after having kids and get paid more because 'she learnt extra skills at home' :laughing:

quit trolling

lol Il Duce, I think I posted that in the funny picture thread

also just re-reading that, the whole ruling a nation/army thing is way off base.

There was Joan of Arcadia and one of the Queens...Queen Elizabeth I believe

Oh this concept makes me quite infuriated. I am still many steps away from being a feminist, but still. Women are not asking for more--just the same.

I think anyone who thinks that they should not get the paid equal is a sad, pathetic man who got rejected a few too many times. Honestly, if you do not think women are just as capable of men you clearly just have no spent enough time around women, and you only have yourself to blame if women do not want to spend time around you.

Ugh.

hope you respect women anytime soon, dupe.

nobody understands what a "joke" is around here

and P.S. those aren't my views, just some nerd's who ain't getting any on 4chan

Ah... 4chan.

What would the internet do without you?

No they do understand what a joke is but they cherry pick what they decide what is and isn't a joke.

If it's from someone they like then sure it's a joke but if it's from someone they don't like then it's super serious and in no way a joke at all.

The fact that it was intended as a joke doesn't eliminate the result that someone was offended by it. Your intent is ultimately meaningless.

To the contrary, I think it is quite clear it is a joke. And I doubt anyone thought you were perpetuating those views. HOWEVER, just by solely posting it and allowing everyone else to be exposed to the troll, which is exactly what the lonely nerd wanted.

It is hard to post that without thinking you would get a negative reaction from a group of people that consists of more than just lonely nerds touching their penis 6 times a day.

I'm just saying--the joke part is clear, I just am very tired of basic trolls.

*nothing personal against you.

well, slap my uncle and call me "Howard Stern" then

I'm offended at those who find it offensive, what a vicious cycle. Who are we to police personal thought?

the thought police clearly. I thought that was obvious.

It was clearly posted in jest as an attempt at humor and contrast, and he was simply playing the Devil's advocate (albeit playing it foolishly).

I think we are running in circles at this point :)

In that case, we clearly deserve the same compensation, as we have both done equal concentric running.

I would not have it any other way.

The only reason why the image should offend is if it's true...







http://ih0.redbubble.net/work.694773...0,white.v3.jpg

:rolleyes:

It's offensive because that was the beliefs of most men of women for centuries. Only recently have women gained more equality to men. There are still men out there that believe in those kind of negative ideals. This is not a joke thread, it is serious.

And to be fair, they're only jokes as long as women are laughing with everyone else. The humour was long exhausted years ago when it first became a meme.

People who think an internet forum is fundamentally bound to observing all of the same rights laws are written for, are fucking hilarious.

Whether the offended person feels there is some truth in it or not isn't the gauge of offensiveness. It's not the veracity of the statement, but it's the perceived mean spiritedness behind it. In theory the truth should not offend. Something that is ironic or funny is when it's a gross misrepresentation of something, but then again something offensive when it's a derisive gross misrepresentation of something too. There is such a fine line between being jokey and being jerky. Il Duce confessed it was his ill attempt at a lulz, he wasn't trying to be mean - so he says.

Back on topic, yes, equal pay for equal work.

I'm a single dad and have 2 teenage daughters. I've tried my best to instill in them, since they were todlers, that they can do ANYTHING in this life and there is NO limit to their potential. They are awesome kids. Very bright and artistic, sef-confident, etc...

Sadly, the reality is that, unfortunately, they will have to deal with the fact that women don't get equal pay for the same work. This is not fair and it sucks.

I've been trying to plant the seed of self-employment as I feel this gives them the best chance to overcome this inequality. My youngest daughter, who just turned 15, actually makes jewelry and such that she sells. Several friends have requested items from her and she sells some online. My older daughter, 17, has sold some paintings that she has done. I hope they continue this through HS and college as it should give them them the confidence to not feel the need to go the corporate route. Anyway, time will tell. I would just love to see them avoid the whole corporate treadmill mentality in general.

hey man, no bypassing the censor! The show will get cancelled

why would anyone think that when internet forums are considered private and adhere to their own rules that by pass the laws that are in place?

I could understand if it was a .gov or something along those lines but that's still a bit iffy.

blue eyes and blond hair...maybe that was partly intented as a dig at hitler too.

exactly. people try to losen heated arguments by posting senseless jokes that would even trigger more argument.