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12-08-2017, 02:51 PM | #812 (permalink) |
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I just find it incredible that because you go through six months training for a JOB as a police officer, it gives you the opportunity to murder somebody after you wrongly assessed the situation. Did he have a gun? No. You were wrong and somebody is dead now. You go to jail.
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12-08-2017, 02:59 PM | #813 (permalink) |
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12-08-2017, 03:16 PM | #814 (permalink) | |
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12-08-2017, 03:33 PM | #815 (permalink) | |
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12-08-2017, 03:45 PM | #816 (permalink) | |
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Biggest issue right now with police departments and a slew of other departments but I won't get into that. Nobody is held accountable. Police have this "but we are the police" sort of mentality which to them should exonerate pretty much any crime because, hey, they're the police. Police officers put their lives in danger to keep people safe. Some officers go above and beyond the call of duty and are absolute true heroes. That's only some though. Problem is that EVERY cop sees themselves as heroes. You don't sign up to become a hero. You volunteered to become an officer. You don't get these higher statuses just because you chose to complete a six month course. Police departments are gangs in the way that they all band together and it's them versus everybody else. They take bribes. They influence people. They intimidate people. They are a mob. Yet, I'm not anti-cop. I treat every cop I run into with the same respect as I would any other person. I understand that their job means a certain way of behavior when encountering them but I don't consider them any different. I take each encounter as it unfolds. You're a dick? F*ck you, I'm cooperating minimally. You're super nice and doing your job for safety reasons with reason and understanding? What do you need me to do? How can we help each other? Yet, the police are flawed. HEAVILY flawed. They are scared little men with guns and when they feel "Threatened" they feel their life is more important than another persons so they shoot to kill. A police officer should put his life in front of another. That's what you signed up for. There is no reason somebody should be killed when they don't have a weapon because the only reason a cop should shoot another person is if he ABSOLUTELY sees a f*cking gun. Not "I feel like he may have been reaching for a gun that I never saw before and may or may not be there". No. F*ck you. You murdered somebody. It makes me sick. And yet nobody is held accountable. That cop that just got 20 years wasn't even held that accountable because he shot somebody in the back and was't given life/death penalty. It's disgusting. Once departments start being held accountable and the culture changes, we'll see change. But that is a tall TALL order. |
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12-08-2017, 04:51 PM | #817 (permalink) |
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It's not a made-up issue, and people of color are most likely to face it. Just the other day I saw that there was a pregnant woman who was tased for no good reason and she had a miscarried baby. It's not even just the shootings or the killings, it's the system in general that allows them to use excessive force, and that dehumanizes men and women whether they did something wrong or not. Police aren't being put through the same system either, they're not held responsible for their actions in too many cases where the worst that seems to happen is they get fired after months of paid leave. What might be the most telling thing is the different reaction to when the black police officer killed the white woman here in Minneapolis several months ago. All of those conservatives who said that these black men basically deserved it were now defending her and verbally attacking this black cop, saying it was on purpose because he was muslim. They were all trained to react to fear with violence, and if you don't change the way that cops are trained then nothing's ever going to change. Last edited by Maajo; 12-08-2017 at 05:03 PM. |
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