The Batlord

Years ago I was talking to some black people about why they weren't more into conscious rap, and the answer I generally got was that "**** sucks so much all of the time that we just want to forget about it and have fun." If a large portion of the black community feel this way, and I believe they do, then just imagine how all the other races who are not as directly affected by this feel.

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Lilja

So the answer you are giving is that people should just do nothing and accept?

The Batlord

My answer is that the average person isn't trying to change the world. They're just trying to go about their life. Which is why they listen to music that is fun rather than inspiring.

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Blank.

Yes, but the problem with more stringent gun laws is this, just because it worked in one one country doesn't mean it's going to work in another one. Britain is a small country, with less people. They don't need the police carrying weapons because they don't have the crime rate the US has. It's a bit of an unfair comparison. Plus, not to mention, avid hunters wouldn't be able to hunt and we'd take away they're right too. No, more stringent gun laws ends up just taking guns away from law-abiding citizens while crime rates go up.

Lilja

Of course hunters would be able to hunt. There are many people that hunt in my country. We just don't give out gun licenses like candy. By making your laws stricter, you make it more of a privilege to own a gun rather than allowing every idiot to get a gun in record time with minor backround checks and no way of knowing if they know how to handle a gun. It's the idiots you are giving guns to, not the guns that are your problem.

RoxyRollah

Do not blame the second amendment^. Criminals and wrong doers will still go and get what they need when they want it. Do not impede on the right of the people to arm themselves because the criminals will have them. And right now the only criminals are the ones taking them from registered citizens.

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DeadChannel

This might come as a surprise seeing as how I've pretty clearly asserted myself as pretty far left, but I don't think that gun control is the solution. It's surface level rhetoric that fails to look at the root cause and instead focuses on on the most obvious, but probably least effective, solution. I mean, idk, I'm not sure how it's different than people who want to ban violent video games or Tipper Gore types.

Naw, instead of blaming the communities being victimised, we need to look at issues within the police system that perputrate this sort of behavoir and factors external to that which cause minorites to become disenfranchised. If we ban guns, the cops will keep brutalizing whoever, and people will start bombing **** and whatever. I don't think that guns are the only way to inflict that sort of mass violence, and I don't think doing away with them will solve the problem.

Blank.

I'm sorry. But you can't compare my country to yours. We're two very different countries with very different cultures. To say it works in Britain therefore it will work in America is denying the difference between countries.

djchameleon

I'm talking about after the fact not like they are trying to predict when it's going to happen. When they find out about it, they just hide in their little turtle shells. They don't speak out against them.

I actually would. Plus that is a horrible comparison because it isn't my job to serve and protect the community. Then do shady **** and turn around and protect corrupt cops.

be dumbfounded all you want. In the heat of the moment right now, I really don't like cops except for IA. I'm not even going to separate it between the poorly trained and the racist cops. I don't like them overall and how they are operating themselves. They are basically a gang.


Thanks for parroting one of the NRA's talking points. The stricter gun laws aren't even that bad. People will still be able to hunt and what not. It would be nice to be able to have it harder for people to just pick up guns willy nilly with no backgrounds checks from gun shows for instance. Nobody is taking any guns away from law abiding citizens. It would be nice to make it slightly harder to get a gun though.


I think you are wasting your time. Any time someone brings up stricter gun laws. All the right wing supporters hear is don't take my guns away from me. Don't make it harder for me to get guns. There needs to be more good guys with guns to stop the bad guys with guns. blah blah blah

Just because criminals and wrong doers will still go get when they need when they want it. Doesn't mean that it can't be stricter for the in between people. No one is saying that they are impeding on your right to arm yourself. No one is talking about taking your guns away from you except me. I'm knocking on your door and we are having a shoot out til I take your guns away from you. Try me Roxo. Criminals are not just taking them from registered citizens. They are easily walking up to gun shows and just buying them out right. Gun shows even sell guns to kids without checking IDs.

Once again for all the dense people, stricter gun laws =/= ban guns.

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RoxyRollah

Do you ever not know how to sound condescending?

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