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View Poll Results: Do american police generally seem too violent or oppressive to you?
Yes 60 65.22%
No 23 25.00%
Undecided / No opinion / I'm a vegetable 9 9.78%
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Old 08-15-2014, 03:20 PM   #211 (permalink)
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usually they come in a package though.
Do they? I've never bought one. Maybe he had picked up the display model?
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Old 08-15-2014, 03:21 PM   #212 (permalink)
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i used to work at walmart. the real guns are in a glass case on display and the airsoft guns come in a plastic package that is sort of a bitch to open for anti-theft purposes. there were no display model airsoft guns lying around for what should by now be pretty obvious reasons. at least not at the store i worked at.
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Old 08-15-2014, 03:33 PM   #213 (permalink)
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You're suggestion that he should be wounded is spot on - how many lives would have been saved in the past couple years alone had the officer downed the suspect with a shot to the leg rather than firing to kill?

The shoot now, ask questions later only works if they aren't murdered.
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cops aren't all top marksmen. I've heard of accounts of multiple cops missing a target at point blank range a few times. In fact, their training in firearms is comparable to anyone who wishes to learn at a range them self.

We all remember the dude who shot himself in the foot right?
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Old 08-15-2014, 03:33 PM   #214 (permalink)
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He talked to his mother at the store on the phone and she asked him what he was doing he said " Nothing just playing with da toy gun." Now that tells me, that his intent was to terrorize, that he knew it looked real and that he had done this more then once. I also heard a report from his girl friend and I quote, " He would have told them it wasn't real." Now like I said I am sorry for his family's loss. But if you are walking into a store, with a gun real, or fake browsing the greeting card section and the police tell you more then once to drop your weapon (which is standard protocol) and you don't put down your gun real or fake if you get blasted it's really your fault and you can't hold the officers that we the people entrust to protect and serve responsible. I mean what if it were real and some kid playing on a tricycle that's over by sporting goods caught one in the neck? You guys are honestly saying you don't want your boys in blue to take that bastard down? Really? I mean I am not understanding how we are jumping to the connection of murder. I have had a dear friend of mine actually murdered by the police and he was white so lets just agree to disagree here.

I am not saying that there aren't incidents where yes there are racist police, and they do things they shouldn't. Ie, Rodney King, that kid in St. Louis, and some other things. This particular crime however screams clean shooting.

Also trying to get **** outta walmart is like trying to pull teeth. Hell I didn't get an I'm sorry for finding glass in my cake when I was 7 months pregnant. I am so serious there, I asked them if it was standard practice to serve pregnant woman broken glass in their cake.
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Old 08-15-2014, 03:34 PM   #215 (permalink)
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cops aren't all top marksmen. I've heard of accounts of multiple cops missing a target at point blank range a few times. In fact, their training in firearms is comparable to anyone who wishes to learn at a range them self.

We all remember the dude who shot himself in the foot right?
One could say the same about a former vice president. Wasn't he aiming at hog or something.
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Someone who is going to buy it? From what I've read, he was carrying around an air rifle that they sell there.

Edit: Yep. Here it is on Walmart's website.
Which he had taken out of the packaging. And do you honestly think it's store policy to allow someone to walk around openly brandishing a gun, regardless of whether or not it's one of the store's? If so, then they're out of their minds, because someone walking around with a gun is ****ing scary and I wouldn't want to drive my customers away by letting that happen. Seriously, a guy with a big ****ing rifle wandering around a department store wouldn't alarm you?
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We really need the video. The fact that he was possessing a realistic looking toy gun around civilians is hard to defend on its own.

It really comes down to the actual altercation that transpired. How quick were the police to pull the trigger after if he did inform them it was fake? Did he get repeated warnings to put it down? Was he trying to explain it, albeit in a standoff-ish manner?

It seems both parties may be at fault here.
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Old 08-15-2014, 05:39 PM   #218 (permalink)
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Cop who shot Michael Brown named | Stuff.co.nz

Have you guys heard about this one?
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:05 PM   #219 (permalink)
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Which he had taken out of the packaging. And do you honestly think it's store policy to allow someone to walk around openly brandishing a gun, regardless of whether or not it's one of the store's? If so, then they're out of their minds, because someone walking around with a gun is ****ing scary and I wouldn't want to drive my customers away by letting that happen. Seriously, a guy with a big ****ing rifle wandering around a department store wouldn't alarm you?
Honestly I have no idea if he was brandishing it or if he was just carrying it around. I guess that's why we need the video. I find it weird that Walmart sells things like that in the first place so I have no idea what their policies are with regards to them.
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:10 PM   #220 (permalink)
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I used to own airsoft guns and they always came with an orange tip to prevent this exact scenario from happening. Some people would saw the orange tip off, or spray paint it, but it was illegal at least in my state.
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