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View Poll Results: Do american police generally seem too violent or oppressive to you?
Yes 60 65.22%
No 23 25.00%
Undecided / No opinion / I'm a vegetable 9 9.78%
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Old 05-08-2014, 04:16 PM   #141 (permalink)
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I don't think that's the general police mindset or anywhere close to it
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Old 05-08-2014, 04:30 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Tell that to all the unarmed people that die at the hands of a few trigger happy cops.
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Old 05-08-2014, 04:43 PM   #143 (permalink)
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So like .00001% of the population lol

Like I said I wouldn't hate all mexicans if I got robbed by a mexican one time
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:17 AM   #144 (permalink)
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This is a very important topic for me. I made a pact with myself and some people I hold dear that I would advocate on behalf of those whom have been subject to this issue, most of all my dearly departed BFF and his family.

Additionally, I am going to say what I have to say very carefully, as there is one.......person....for whom I have absolutely zero respect. That.......person... can think whatever they want to think, IDGAF. I'm talking to the rest of you.

First off, this isn't the "I hate all cops" thread. In fact, I acknowledged right up front that police do dangerous, difficult, in many cases thankless work

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Yes, police do exceedingly difficult dangerous work. That is NOT a licence to injure, maim and kill with impunity anytime someone or something sets 'em off.
I'll stand by that to the day I die. Furthermore, any future "Smeenus hates all cops" responses to this thread are to be exposed and summarily dismissed as strawman baiting. The issue of police brutality in the US is widespread but not total or even in a majority.

This is the "American Police Brutality" thread. I will outline absolute unquestionable proof that this exists. It demands to be taken seriously.

And if there's anyone that might have just cause to hate cops, it would be myself, having a dear friend's life taken by two members of the Mason, OH police (clearly I'm not the only person who felt this loss, Dougie has a beautiful daughter who's loss is far greater than mine, but I will only speak on my own behalf on this). I do not. I have volumes of respect and gratitude for those who protect and serve. Action must be taken to reduce as much as possible these acts of violence against the public, by a very dangerous minority of the US police force.

Department of Justice (DOJ) findings, Seattle Police use excessive force in 20% of all cases

DOJ findings: Excessive force in Albuquerque

DOJ: Excessive force Miami

DOJ: Excessive force Portland

Cincinnati

Pittsburgh

Los Angeles

More examples

Community Relations Service (CRS), a department of the DOJ, findings and proposed solutions

In 2010 John T Williams, a native american woodcarver is seem ambling across the street in front of the dashcam video. Notice how the SPD officer opens fire with deadly intent 7 seconds after he commands Williams to "drop the knife" he was carving with. Williams was totally deaf in one ear and hard of hearing in the other



This killing was found unjustified, but no charges were ever filed. And this is the pattern, out of control police injure or kill innocent citizen, officer cleared, city pays out millions in civil suit. In a future post I will outline numerous such cases, and one of them will be the gentle woodcarver above.

As will this



And yes, there will never be any shortage of ass holes in the citizenry. I'm as repulsed as anyone over scenes such as the Seattle May Day, WTO and Vancouver post-Stanley Cup rioting, this is hooliganism at it's worst. Police responded well in some instances, not so well in others. It is a police officer's sworn duty to protect and defend the populace. They are trained (or should be, more on recent changes in future posts) to keep a cool head in these conditions. Too often non-deadly behavior is being met with deadly force. The root cause of this is a culture within many departments, this culture is being addressed here in Seattle, more on this to come.
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BTW Paul, I was talking generally, my posts weren't directed at anyone in this thread. Sorry if they read like they were.
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BTW Paul, I was talking generally, my posts weren't directed at anyone in this thread. Sorry if they read like they were.

I have no issues with you CB. I hope what I'm going to be saying here will shed some light on the other side of the issue. Additionally, any similar problems in Britain are minuscule compared to the US.

Of course we're nowhere near as bad as some other parts of the world, nations that are police states. Thank goodness.
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So like .00001% of the population lol

Like I said I wouldn't hate all mexicans if I got robbed by a mexican one time
You need to check your being alive privilege.

Great post Smeenus. Looking forward to the others when you get around to them.
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I think we can all get behind hating traffic cops though. They're not all bad people, but when I get pulled over for doing 65 in a school zone then that pig can go **** himself.
I speed literally everywhere I can except two places:
The street I live on.
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Some may disagree mainly.... one ..... person..... but thst ... person .... has me on ignore anyways lol.


Anyways can one of u cop haters tell me why hating a race for an incident and hating all cops is so different?? Same principle at hand. Please justify thanks
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Cell Phone Video Shows Police Choking, Kicking 6th Graders

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On Tuesday, the Boynton Beach, Fla. police department released two student-shot cell phone videos that show police officers detaining two sixth graders who'd reportedly just been removed from a school bus. In one video, an officer appears to put a student in a chokehold; in another, an officer kicks a student in the back of the leg, causing the student to fall.
He's probably just getting a short paid suspension and then going back on duty like nothing happened.

The only way a cop will ever really get any decent punishment is if they end up snapping and dishing out the same treatment to a fellow officer.

Since the above is a re-post I figured I would also add another story that happened near where I grew up in TX recently.

Police brutality at Baytown party? - Houston weather, traffic, news | FOX 26 | MyFoxHouston

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on the night of May 3 when a large group of people were watching a boxing match at a Baytown home. According to protesters, officers arrived after receiving a noise disturbance call.

“I had already put my hands up in the air and told them I was not resisting arrest, them seeing my hands in the air, they still came up and punched me in the eye, tased me multiple times, and even when I was in handcuffs,” says Edgar Garcia, who was arrested that night.

The video shows multiple officers arresting people inside the home and even one of them uses a stun device to restrain one of the invited guests. Erica Clarke was among them.

“I had to take care of the grandmother that was tased four times. That was my first time in there,” says Clark as she holds back tears.
Also video at the link.

Did they really have to tase an old lady? like come on!
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