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Mr November Can God Give Free Will? 05-29-2011, 11:19 PM

Sansa Stark Spoiler: Humans created God 05-29-2011, 11:22 PM

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra Maybe God doesn't give two... 05-29-2011, 11:26 PM

Mr November If you were all knowing... 05-29-2011, 11:29 PM

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra Yeah, but that's half the fun... 05-29-2011, 11:38 PM

SATCHMO Haha... I knw that's right. 05-29-2011, 11:38 PM

Dotoar And God created Aqualung. 06-04-2011, 09:41 AM

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra Ian Anderson is God? 06-04-2011, 09:43 AM

Dotoar I suppose he is. It's more... 06-04-2011, 07:16 PM

Thom Yorke Like the answer to all... 05-29-2011, 11:25 PM

Scarlett O\'Hara God created suffering by... 05-29-2011, 11:34 PM

Mr November Does God create each... 05-29-2011, 11:39 PM

Dirty Well we are gonna have to go... 05-30-2011, 12:06 AM

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra Well, I think the point... 05-30-2011, 12:17 AM

Freebase Dali "playing out as he knows" and... 05-30-2011, 12:46 AM

djchameleon :rofl: You bring up a good... 05-30-2011, 06:42 AM

chiron It all makes sense if you... 05-31-2011, 09:06 AM

Neapolitan Say on a hot summer day, you... 05-30-2011, 01:38 PM

Mr November Right but it's a different... 05-30-2011, 06:15 PM

Neapolitan That goes away from my... 05-30-2011, 08:14 PM

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra So... having sex out of... 05-30-2011, 08:07 PM

Freebase Dali I really want to hear a... 05-30-2011, 01:03 AM

dbpq90 ^^To me, it just kinda brings... 05-30-2011, 01:36 AM

RVCA I think I've simply decided... 05-30-2011, 03:01 AM

Paedantic Basterd I don't see why God couldn't... 05-30-2011, 08:47 PM

Mr November Can God move an immovable... 05-30-2011, 08:52 PM

Paedantic Basterd Well, in that case, your... 05-30-2011, 09:02 PM

Mr November Well then they would call... 05-30-2011, 09:02 PM

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[MERIT] There's no way to prove free... 05-30-2011, 09:29 PM

Neapolitan If I compared the difference... 05-30-2011, 09:51 PM

Mr November You couldn't prove it as far... 05-30-2011, 10:04 PM

[MERIT] No, you couldn't. You... 05-31-2011, 12:26 PM

Neapolitan Why do you only have the... 05-31-2011, 02:45 PM

[MERIT] I assumed that you could... 05-31-2011, 02:46 PM

djchameleon See, this part I never... 05-30-2011, 11:03 PM

Paedantic Basterd On a side note, I was... 05-30-2011, 11:04 PM

Zer0 If God could give free WiFi I... 06-01-2011, 10:58 AM

[MERIT] Anyone know God's WEP... 06-01-2011, 11:30 AM

Zer0 The Flying Spagetti Monster... 06-01-2011, 11:36 AM

Scarlett O\'Hara :laughing: On an off... 06-01-2011, 02:58 PM

Freebase Dali If god uses WEP, then he's a... 06-01-2011, 02:55 PM

djchameleon God can give free Wifi! ... 05-30-2011, 11:06 PM

Mr November And atheists are accused of... 05-31-2011, 05:48 PM

[MERIT] I believe that's really more... 06-01-2011, 09:28 AM

RVCA That's because the idea that... 06-01-2011, 01:20 PM

The Virgin Yes. God is capable of giving... 06-01-2011, 09:52 AM

[MERIT] This sort of begs the... 06-01-2011, 10:20 AM

The Virgin God gave us our lives and... 06-01-2011, 10:32 AM

[MERIT] I guess what I was getting at... 06-01-2011, 10:46 AM

Mr November @ The Virgin I don't... 06-01-2011, 01:31 PM

Freebase Dali That brings up a good... 06-01-2011, 03:10 PM

Mr November I think the idea is that... 06-01-2011, 08:06 PM

The Virgin red is a primary color. but... 06-02-2011, 02:25 AM

djchameleon our actions truly don't... 06-02-2011, 02:59 AM

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Scarlett O\'Hara I don't know for sure, I... 06-02-2011, 04:38 AM

[MERIT] The bible says nothing about... 06-02-2011, 10:46 AM

Mr November Just a few notes. I don't... 06-02-2011, 09:02 PM

djchameleon Well see the thing that I... 06-03-2011, 04:17 AM

The Virgin ok, i got you. so what's your... 06-02-2011, 11:49 PM

[MERIT] I think that we all... 06-03-2011, 12:31 PM

Howard the Duck my take on this thread, is... 06-03-2011, 10:29 AM

Mr November Ok, so can we agree that if... 06-03-2011, 06:57 PM

Howard the Duck Yes. I don't think... 06-03-2011, 10:56 PM

Mr November So now he's negotiating with... 06-04-2011, 12:12 AM

djchameleon The Devil gets a bad rap. ... 06-04-2011, 12:44 AM

Howard the Duck they already had a deal since... 06-04-2011, 04:23 AM

antiboredom101 Your question is all I read.... 06-05-2011, 08:29 AM

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra I'm reverting back to my... 06-05-2011, 10:43 AM

Neapolitan Sounds like you got that from... 06-05-2011, 10:17 PM

Mr November I think Star Wars at least... 06-06-2011, 12:16 AM

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra Well and THIS makes more... 06-06-2011, 07:10 AM

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The Virgin this discussion is going... 06-06-2011, 04:03 AM

djchameleon yes the discussion is going... 06-06-2011, 04:50 AM

The Virgin well, for purposes of... 06-06-2011, 04:59 AM

Dotoar Oh, careful there! It's upon... 06-06-2011, 06:52 AM

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Howard the Duck it's something which you can... 06-06-2011, 07:01 AM

RVCA Right, as is the existence of... 06-06-2011, 01:16 PM

Dotoar To be fair, as long as it's... 06-06-2011, 04:12 PM

RVCA Euh... tell that to... 06-06-2011, 05:01 PM

Dotoar Well, belief is one thing and... 06-06-2011, 05:47 PM

Neapolitan What do "moderates" do to... 06-06-2011, 10:35 PM

djchameleon Even though it says in the... 06-07-2011, 02:48 AM

djchameleon I don't get why you would... 06-06-2011, 05:10 PM

RVCA Nay, that's called faith. 06-06-2011, 05:11 PM

djchameleon be·lief/biˈlēf/Noun 1. An... 06-06-2011, 05:17 PM

Stone Birds let's answer this in a more... 06-06-2011, 07:24 AM

RVCA Actually, you're right. That... 06-06-2011, 05:27 PM

Howard the Duck it's a belief for me based on... 06-06-2011, 09:32 PM

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Howard the Duck all my experience with God is... 06-06-2011, 10:03 PM

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Mr November Christianity doesn't have... 06-06-2011, 10:19 PM

The Virgin funny cause you kept on... 06-07-2011, 02:54 AM

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Howard the Duck look it was the first... 06-07-2011, 03:03 AM

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Howard the Duck "can god give free will?" is... 06-07-2011, 06:30 AM

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Dotoar Whatever you deliberately set... 06-07-2011, 06:39 AM

ThePhanastasio The Catholic God,... 06-07-2011, 06:34 AM

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Stephen I'm not sure if this is... 06-13-2011, 07:25 PM

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The Virgin my friend, pray daily, and... 06-14-2011, 02:36 AM

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cardboard adolescent you see, every path available... 06-22-2011, 01:58 AM

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Howard the Duck don't question it, just... 06-22-2011, 05:57 PM

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The Virgin of course our will and our... 06-23-2011, 02:58 PM

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Right, as is the existence of the flying spaghetti monster, invisible magical gnomes, tiny golden teapots orbiting our solar system, or any other infinite number of epistemic absurdities for which there is no evidence nor reason to believe exist. I quite disagree with "you can't disprove it and neither can I!" being a rational, or even accepted, basis for belief.

To be fair, as long as it's regarded as the basis for belief and not knowledge, there's not much harm in it. In any case it's basic knowledge that he who makes the positive claim is the one with the burden of proof. However, it also seem to be common practice among believers and so-called 'open-minded' people to disregard that.

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