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**Janszoon** · 05-02-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Janz thought Obama became Pat Robertson in his speech tonight.

Er, no.

Mr November · 05-02-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Slightly, I need a sum up because there is too many spewing posts of subtle attacks to get to the actual content.

Summary:

Obama referenced god in his speech.

Many atheists think this isn't appropriate for this day and age in a secular society.

Big 3 thinks its trivial.

Atheists think it's not.

So... it's a ways off track, but it's the interesting corner of this discussion in my opinion.

TheBig3 · 05-02-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Sure, and the larger issue is Obama starting to look and act more like Bush with each passing day, which has nothing to do with Westboro Baptist or Terry Jones.

Am I a 19 year old nose-deep in Ayn Rand novels? No. So no need to engage in such ad hominems, eh?

I don't think theres a need. Its a rhetorical device. My point is, unless you're just wholly opposed to religion, there isn't anything that is jumping out as offensive there. He didn't say "lets pray to a Christian God for thanks on this one."

Also, how does he look like Bush?

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 05-02-2011, 12:21 AM

Thank you! Wow all those posts for just that? Well I'm guessing you guys disagree with Janszoon?

I'm not suprised that there are religious overtones in Barak's speech but whether it was target specifically at Obama or not can be refuted. It's not like he's the only religious focused, extrememist eastern threat.

Paedantic Basterd · 05-02-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman

Summary:

Obama referenced god in his speech.

Many atheists think this isn't appropriate for this day and age in a secular society.

Big 3 thinks its trivial.

Atheists think it's not.

So... it's a ways off track, but it's the interesting corner of this discussion in my opinion.

Er, did I miss where everyone came out and said they were atheists, or where this debate was limited to atheists?

TheBig3 · 05-02-2011, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Er, no.

You just don't appreciate color commentary, huh?

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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman

Summary:

Obama referenced god in his speech.

Many atheists think this isn't appropriate for this day and age in a secular society.

Big 3 thinks its trivial.

Atheists think it's not.

So... it's a ways off track, but it's the interesting corner of this discussion in my opinion.

America isn't an atheist nation you know.

TheBig3 · 05-02-2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Thank you! Wow all those posts for just that? Well I'm guessing you guys disagree with Janszoon?

I'm not suprised that there are religious overtones in Barak's speech but whether it was target specifically at Obama or not can be refuted. It's not like he's the only religious focused, extrememist eastern threat

There weren't religious overtones. This is the debate.

**Janszoon** · 05-02-2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain

I could only find one post, where you actually attempted to explain anything. You started by saying there were "a string of several Christian comments". You've never said what those comments were. I think you had a flashback of Bush, maybe from PTSD and possibly decided your vote for the 2012 election off of this one little speech.

I already explained to you that God with a capital "G" refers to the Christian god. Not sure why you chose to ignore that.

TheBig3 · 05-02-2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Er, did I miss where everyone came out and said they were atheists, or where this debate was limited to atheists?

No, he just blurted it out and showed all his cards. This was my point. Ian doesn't believe in God, and humorously enough, he's gone evangelical about his atheism.

Paedantic Basterd · 05-02-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

No, he just blurted it out and showed all his cards. This was my point. Ian doesn't believe in God, and humorously enough, he's gone evangelical about his atheism.

I could see him being offended if he were a hindu or muslim American, but to narrow it down to being Christian VS Atheist is just as narrow in view.

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