Open homosexuality in the military soon... Can I shower with the ladies then?

Howard the Duck · 04-23-2011, 02:19 PM

ninjitsu - overrated - my fren took it and never learnt to walk on water, scale walls OR ninja magic

Arya Stark · 04-23-2011, 04:17 PM

Not knowing someone is gay doesn't make them any less gay.
I agree with what people are saying about unity, things like that, the ability to work with people and not have to be uncomfortable about things like homosexuality or not having it be in the way.
But just because they're now openly gay doesn't mean they weren't checking you out/fantasizing about you/crushing on you before.
I don't really get that aspect of people's disagreement with the repealed law.

ThePhanastasio · 04-23-2011, 04:36 PM

One of my dad's best friends got discharged under DADT when my family was stationed at Fort Bragg. The guy was airborne, did everything right, healthy...he just got caught out at a restaurant with his boyfriend, and his platoon leader made a big stink about it.

So, I've never been military personel, but I was a DOD civilian spending most of my childhood on base who saw DADT negatively affect a close family friend.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 04-23-2011, 04:40 PM

Was a silly law based on a bigoted paranoia. Glad it's been abolished.

However, I see it as a very small piece of the picture behind my issues with the military. I feel that they tend to... and this may be a tad bit controversial in saying... profit off the difficulty of the lower class in America in getting a job.

I say this mostly due to personal frustrations I have had going through government based employment systems, and how little they actually do. makes me feel really iffy that they have a tax based organization that, while essential, seems a tad bloated, and furthermore misused, and they can't even set up a decently reasonable centralized employment system within the country...

However, Military's only standard in hiring is your ability to point a gun in the right direction. If you're sane enough to do that, then you're in. Seems to me that doesn't really apply to trust fund Johnny in his 16 year old high school existence, picking up botoxed modelettes in his Ferrari with his Yale tenure already paid for so he can be a crooked stock market thief. However, if you're truly poor, living in a strange depression with inflation foodprices like we do, and have no direction, or funding to go in a direction, the military has open arms, and open guns for you to aid in Holy/pride/resource skirmishes all over the globe(which aid entirely the will of trust fund Johnny's senator uncle's view of the world, and quality of life).

Yeesh, I think I near closer, and closer, to communism as my life goes on.

djchameleon · 04-23-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

However, I see it as a very small piece of the picture behind my issues with the military. I feel that they tend to... and this may be a tad bit controversial in saying... profit off the difficulty of the lower class in America in getting a job.

I say this mostly due to personal frustrations I have had going through government based employment systems, and how little they actually do. makes me feel really iffy that they have a tax based organization that, while essential, seems a tad bloated, and furthermore misused, and they can't even set up a decently reasonable centralized employment system within the country...

However, Military's only standard in hiring is your ability to point a gun in the right direction. If you're sane enough to do that, then you're in. Seems to me that doesn't really apply to trust fund Johnny in his 16 year old high school existence, picking up botoxed modelettes in his Ferrari with his Yale tenure already paid for so he can be a crooked stock market thief. However, if you're truly poor, living in a strange depression with inflation foodprices like we do, and have no direction, or funding to go in a direction, the military has open arms, and open guns for you to aid in Holy/pride/resource skirmishes all over the globe(which aid entirely the will of trust fund Johnny's senator uncle's view of the world, and quality of life).

Yeesh, I think I near closer, and closer, to communism as my life goes on.

I don't necessarily see that as bad thing though. It helps lower income people to get a job with decent benefits and gives them some sort of trade skill and the money to go through college later on with said benefits.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 04-23-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I don't necessarily see that as bad thing though. It helps lower income people to get a job with decent benefits and gives them some sort of trade skill and the money to go through college later on with said benefits.

Yes, but you get people who don't really want to fight going out and fighting. I've met so many people who flat out joined for the benefits, than bitched, and moaned. Literally phrased the government as 'screwing' with them because they might.

I mean, really, how much more prone do you expect somebody who doesn't really want to fight to PTSD than somebody who does?

TockTockTock · 04-23-2011, 05:58 PM

I think Skaligojurah makes a good point.

djchameleon · 04-23-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

Yes, but you get people who don't really want to fight going out and fighting. I've met so many people who flat out joined for the benefits, than bitched, and moaned. Literally phrased the government as 'screwing' with them because they might.

I mean, really, how much more prone do you expect somebody who doesn't really want to fight to PTSD than somebody who does?

you DO know that the military has been like that for ages right? especially when they were drafting people

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 04-23-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

you DO know that the military has been like that for ages right? especially when they were drafting people

Especially in Vietnam. It's like, they just found a more politically press safe way to continue the draft to me.

~~Dirty~~ · 04-23-2011, 06:39 PM

I've always supported gays in the military. I don't see a problem with it and don't think anyone should have to hide their sexuality for fear of being fired.

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