Open homosexuality in the military soon... Can I shower with the ladies then?

Stone Birds · 04-26-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

Yes, the fraternization policy still exsists for military members, homosexual or otherwise. However, now no one can be turned away or kicked out for homosexual behavior or acts. Also, consensual sodomy is now not a punishable offense. Gay marraige and/or unions are still not recognized by the military. I.E. they can't get dependent benefits and such.

Oh, and did I mention you can't tell gay jokes? That really blows, that's like half my material.

are you sure about that because i'm pretty sure gays have to follow all the same rules as other military people including the very strict rules on ALL relationships

djchameleon · 04-26-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stone Birds

are you sure about that because i'm pretty sure gays have to follow all the same rules as other military people including the very strict rules on ALL relationships

You just said the same thing he did

Mr November · 04-26-2011, 07:01 PM

I'm glad they got rid of the policy, and I'm with everyone else here who is saying that they don't respect patriotism or pride.

That being said... i'm not against the military. I just think it should be viewed like any other job. And I guess policy as far as sexual orientation should fall in line with that.

captaincaptain · 06-03-2011, 07:21 AM

So much for that policy change.

Airman discharged under 'don't ask, don't tell' - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News | Sacramento Bee

Mr November · 06-03-2011, 08:27 PM

Don't ask don't tell is a stupid policy. It should just be don't ask. If someone wants to talk about their sexual orientation that's fine, but it isn't really anyone else's business. It should be the same expectations for conduct across the board and that should be good enough. People who are anti-gay should be the ones facing punishment, not gay people being forced to be silent about their sexual preference as if it were something to be ashamed of.

Freebase Dali · 06-03-2011, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain

So much for that policy change.

Airman discharged under 'don't ask, don't tell' - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News | Sacramento Bee

It hasn't been changed yet, right?

captaincaptain · 06-03-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

It hasn't been changed yet, right?

Technically no, though I was under the impression they put some sort of moratorium on it.

Freebase Dali · 06-03-2011, 09:45 PM

Not sure. There's probably a lot more personal leniency in units, with them knowing it's about to be passed, but from that link, it looks like the person getting kicked out actually wanted it.

I wouldn't be surprised if folks having second thoughts about serving try to use the tail end of DADT as an out, before it's too late.

~~The Virgin~~ · 06-08-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman

Don't ask don't tell is a stupid policy. It should just be don't ask. If someone wants to talk about their sexual orientation that's fine, but it isn't really anyone else's business. It should be the same expectations for conduct across the board and that should be good enough. People who are anti-gay should be the ones facing punishment, not gay people being forced to be silent about their sexual preference as if it were something to be ashamed of.

i so love you right now!

06-03-2011, 07:21 AM	#94 (permalink)
captaincaptain I Am Become Death Metal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stankonia Posts: 695	So much for that policy change. Airman discharged under 'don't ask, don't tell' - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News \| Sacramento Bee __________________ LAST.FM RYM

04-26-2011, 07:01 PM	#93 (permalink)
Mr November Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 429	I'm glad they got rid of the policy, and I'm with everyone else here who is saying that they don't respect patriotism or pride. That being said... i'm not against the military. I just think it should be viewed like any other job. And I guess policy as far as sexual orientation should fall in line with that.

06-03-2011, 08:27 PM	#95 (permalink)
Mr November Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 429	Don't ask don't tell is a stupid policy. It should just be don't ask. If someone wants to talk about their sexual orientation that's fine, but it isn't really anyone else's business. It should be the same expectations for conduct across the board and that should be good enough. People who are anti-gay should be the ones facing punishment, not gay people being forced to be silent about their sexual preference as if it were something to be ashamed of.

06-03-2011, 09:45 PM	#98 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	Not sure. There's probably a lot more personal leniency in units, with them knowing it's about to be passed, but from that link, it looks like the person getting kicked out actually wanted it. I wouldn't be surprised if folks having second thoughts about serving try to use the tail end of DADT as an out, before it's too late.