Why not? There are plenty of people today who do dumb superstitious shit and yet we were still able to split the atom, send people to the Moon and invent the internet.

Exactly.

i don't remember the last time i posted here, so, i'm sorry if at all i repeat myself.

two things keep me very open-minded when it comes to this debate.
1: space. there's so bloody much of it.
2: the exponential growth rate of information.

explained:
1: well, there's just a sh*t-tonne of space.
2: in a hundred years we went from the first cars and airplanes to having devices in our pockets capable of relaying all the information know to man to us. for thousands of years before that, relatively speaking, we really didn't know much.

to me, #2 is the kicker. and no, i'm not calling this evidence. imagine being part of humanity 100 years from now. the technological advancements have probably only been imagined by, like, 9 people, if that. so, if an intelligent alien race were 50,000 years ahead of us, it would just be nuts. now, you're probably thinking i'm talking about wormhole technology and stuff like that. call that a given. i'm talking about us. i'm talking about our ingenuity and our curiosity. we do really weird sh*t... like growing human ears on the sides of rats and mixing goat and spider dna... chasing the higgs boson. we push the envelope... ALWAYS. and we won't ever stop unless we die out. so, what the comparison i draw in my head is based on is the notion that 10,000... 50,000... maybe 100,000 years from now (maybe way sooner than all those figures) we will start doing what they were doing in hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. we will build planets. we will build life. and my comparison says to me personally that it's entirely possible that we are one such project.

not saying i believe it.

I agree.

Sorry I'm in hospital which is why I haven't replied. I have read a lot of information about the study of planets in other galaxies that most likely have atmospheric conditions similar to earth, there has also been evidence taken from actual witnessed landings of extra terrestrial compounds, there are respected doctors, policemen, pilots, politicians, airforce people and so on who have testified sightings and encounters, the Brazilian government gave ufologists access to highly classifieddocuments and reports of the 1977 UFO sightings and alleged burning and other symptoms to citizens and a priest. I could also mention that there is a ridiculously unified reporting of alleged encounters, sightings and abductions. I'm not saying that this has happened but I can have my mind opened to the possibility the extra terrestrial life exists. I would like the united states government to release their files publically like other countries have. If there's nothing to hide, why would they not release them

So scientist and skeptics of the paranormal are close-minded and egotistical because before coming to a conclusion they need or look for evidence. How did civilization progress this far with that close-minded mentality?

Well why didn't you quote this?

People in this thread keep conflating the notion that "aliens exist" with the notion that "aliens have visited Earth". Not the same thing. The universe may very well have other intelligent life in it, but it doesn't automatically follow that any of it has come here.

I fail to see the connection between progress and looking at the universe as a vast wasteland full of nothing but rudimentary bacteria and one planet full of "evolved" life. Add on to that the idea that we expect species from another planet to communicate with us, yet we can't even communicate with a fraction of the species on Earth? Especially when you consider that our notion of "intelligence" is extremely quaint and limited to our ability to survive on our own planet, and that the evidence for life, be it "intelligent" enough for your standards, outside of Earth overwhelms that of any "skeptic" or credible scientist.

I just want to say that if they're out there, we shouldn't know, because we'd come ****ing unglued as a species and get ourselves in trouble over it.

:laughing:

Very true. People would shit themselves, I know I would.