OccultHawk

Obama's a Christian and he's responsible for murdering Libyan civilians and continuing two other wars where American weapons are used to murder people. In fact, the American military is mostly Christian, and, like, they kill people.

Alfred

Killing people is something that will soldiers of any military force will likely have to face. Religion has nothing to do with it in the case of the U.S. Military.

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OccultHawk

Baloney. The religious right and the military walk hand in hand in America.

Alfred

But the military's objective is not to kill for religious reasons.

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OccultHawk

It's always a large part of the objective. We believe in something that's right and they believe in something that's wrong. Pretty simple and stupid actually.

midnight rain

I think killing is pretty universally known as wrong. Hence the reason extremists do it to send a message.

OccultHawk

If killing is universally known as wrong why do Americans celebrate not one but two holidays honoring those who kill: Veterans Day and Memorial Day (not to mention the 4th of July). Is the American military a collection of extremist who kill to send a message? The answer is obviously yes, especially if it's one of your loved ones who has been murdered. There's many Iraqi mothers who can verify this.

Alfred

What are you saying? Are you saying that the reason we go to war with Muslim nations/fight muslim extremist groups is because of Christianity?

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OccultHawk

Yes. And that's why they fight us.

Zaqarbal

Apart from the jokes and ironies (very good, by the way ), the "robotic" aspect is very interesting. In fact, I'd say it's the heart of the matter. Or the mother of all the matters. Let's say it clear: if in year 2011 there still are millions of people acting mechanically as robots, slaves to a book, unable to take moral decisions by themselves, immerse in an eternal adolescence, then THAT is the real fu**ing problem!!! As Sam Harris rightly says, "The Problem with Islamic Fundamentalism are the Fundamentals of Islam".

From a short-term perspective, and in a purely pragmatic aspect, perhaps we could discuss the advantages or disadvantages of certain minor actions. But those are rare exceptions. We can't renounce to basic principles, such as freedom of expression.

According to the politically-correctness mafia, it is unfair to say that some parts of the globe are more socially-developed than others. But that's the truth. Due to a terrible poverty and a suffocating political and cultural isolation, Afghan people are victims of religious leaders and politicians without scruples.


No, actually everything was already perverted from the beginning. It was a typical ascendant criminal career: Once you start with camel smuggling, you may end up founding a religion.

Nah. No problem. If you don't say anything about that bloody motherf***er genocide of Armenians and Kurds named Atatürk, everything is OK.

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