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gunnels 04-04-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1030775)
But Gunnels, the Republican party isn't even happy with it now. Do you really think it makes a difference if the bill is stronger or weaker? To them, fighting any healthcare bill gives them more credit with the Tea Party and more recognition from other Republicans. In their eyes, anything passed by Obama is "socialism."

Yeah, good point. I can't argue with this.

CanwllCorfe 04-04-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 1030778)
Why do you think he was a good speaker? As Jack Pat pointed out, he was good at laughing at himself. But that's it. As far as I could tell, he was an atrocious speaker, and he said a lot of dumb things. Obama, on the other hand, is a fantastic speaker.

I know. I was being sarcastic. Then I was being sarcastic in the way that I said I wasn't being sarcastic.

RVCA 04-04-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe (Post 1030781)
I know. I was being sarcastic. Then I was being sarcastic in the way that I said I wasn't being sarcastic.

:banghead:

You fooled me! For a second I thought there had been some awesome Bush speeches that I was totally unaware of.

TockTockTock 04-04-2011 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe (Post 1030781)
I know. I was being sarcastic. Then I was being sarcastic in the way that I said I wasn't being sarcastic.

Eh...

CanwllCorfe 04-04-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 1030782)
:banghead:

You fooled me! For a second I thought there had been some awesome Bush speeches that I was totally unaware of.

There could be! :eek: Wouldn't be that something. Hearing him be eloquent would just.. I wouldn't know what to do.

Buzzov*en 04-06-2011 12:11 AM

He is a step up from Bush, but that is not saying much since he is a sack of **** as well.

Guybrush 04-06-2011 02:11 AM

From across the pond, he seems like a smart guy whose values are a lot better than your previous president. When it comes to what he's done or not, I'm nowhere up to date on present american politics and don't know any details. But, you're in a country with a huge debt, with a two party system which splits public opinion down the middle, where distrust against the government and a lot of the politics I personally think would help you runs deep. I'm sure all that and many other things present enormous obstacles which slows him down. To expect a new president to magically overcome all that is a bit much.

djchameleon 04-06-2011 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1031648)
From across the pond, he seems like a smart guy whose values are a lot better than your previous president. When it comes to what he's done or not, I'm nowhere up to date on present american politics and don't know any details. But, you're in a country with a huge debt, with a two party system which splits public opinion down the middle, where distrust against the government and a lot of the politics I personally think would help you runs deep. I'm sure all that and many other things present enormous obstacles which slows him down. To expect a new president to magically overcome all that is a bit much.

He had the chance near the beginning to push through some of the policies that he talked about in his campaign but he blew the chance by trying to appeal to both sides of the parties.

I wasn't expecting him to be a miracle but he talked a good game and when he could have backed it up, he decided to be a politician and appeal to both sides to help him in the future for his re-election.

I didn't vote for him because I knew he was just like every other politician but he just didn't appear to have the experience or to tact to be as ruthless as he should be.

The only thing he has going for him is his charisma, he's a pretty good guy and intelligent but he's a bit of a pushover. I like him as a person but talk about being soft.


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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe (Post 1030781)
I know. I was being sarcastic. Then I was being sarcastic in the way that I said I wasn't being sarcastic.

you should be banned from using sarcasm. talk about overusing it to the point where it's ineffective lol

crash_override 04-06-2011 04:22 AM

I think he went into this thinking thinking it was going to be a lot easier to change things in the government than it actually is. He just spent 3 years trying to convince a bunch of gray haired white guys that socialized health care is a good idea. We all see how that worked out. Overall I think he's a decent enough guy and an ok politician with some good ideas, but his ability to change the way things are has been pretty limited, which makes him look bad in the long run.

djchameleon 04-06-2011 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1031719)
I think he went into this thinking thinking it was going to be a lot easier to change things in the government than it actually is. He just spent 3 years trying to convince a bunch of gray haired white guys that socialized health care is a good idea. We all see how that worked out. Overall I think he's a decent enough guy and an ok politician with some good ideas, but his ability to change the way things are has been pretty limited, which makes him look bad in the long run.

yeah but the things he was trying to change are pretty huge things that can't really be done overnight with the bi-partisan BS that goes on.


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