Approval of President Obama

gunnels · 04-04-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

Not to mention, from what I have heard and seen, the healthcare bill is really watered-down and not nearly as strong as it was intended to be (and needs to be).

I've heard about ten different descriptions of the healthcare bill ranging from a system similar to Canada's to legally forcing people to purchase from pre-existing insurance companies (which is bs I'm sure), and I'm too much of a lazy sod to read all 400+ pages of the bill, so I really don't know what to think of it anymore.
I wish people wouldn't make up this kind of runoff.

But yeah, I do agree we need a strong healthcare bill. However, I can see him wanting to compromise just so it exists (especially with Republican majority in congress), because it can always be amended by a later administration. That's what happened with FDR's New Deal and the numerous acts produced by it. (Yeah, it's kind of stretch comparing the two but it's my two cents.)

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 04-04-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

Actually, Obama campaigned as a moderate democrat. I have to say that four months ago, I would've agree with you about him toughening up, but this country won't get anywhere unless we cooperate with one another. Although, I was pretty angry when I saw his tax compromise... Those Bush tax cuts are just idiotic, and they're feeding the beast that is big corporation and greed.

Not to mention, from what I have heard and seen, the healthcare bill is really watered-down and not nearly as strong as it was intended to be (and needs to be).

Well, I'm not saying he was intending to be super super left. More so, he gave the impression that he was a very strong, directioned president who intended to see his vision through. What we got is the world's ultimate compromiser, and a guy who pretty much backed down from a the promises he made.

I mean, has he even closed Guantanamo bay yet? I mean, it was supposed to be the very first thing he was doing. if hasn't done that even yet, what has he done?

TockTockTock · 04-04-2011, 08:24 PM

Good points. Both of you.

gunnels · 04-04-2011, 08:28 PM

Aw, thanks.

Also, just throwing this out there, I have no definite opinion of Obama's performance as a president as I don't have enough knowledge regarding his history as president to make an informed decision.

CanwllCorfe · 04-04-2011, 08:29 PM

We don't have money. If the economy gets better, I'll be happy. I could care less who's president. I'm indifferent towards him. He's definitely a good speaker. Almost as good as Bush.

RVCA · 04-04-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe

Almost as good as Bush.

gunnels · 04-04-2011, 08:32 PM

I actually think he wasn't THAT bad of a speaker overall (regardless of the content of what he said), he just made so many hilarious verbal blunders and occasionally made up words that it was impossible not to giggle at him.

TockTockTock · 04-04-2011, 08:33 PM

But Gunnels, the Republican party isn't even happy with it now. Do you really think it makes a difference if the bill is stronger or weaker? To them, fighting any healthcare bill gives them more credit with the Tea Party and more recognition from other Republicans. In their eyes, anything passed by Obama is "socialism."

EDIT: Bush never took himself all that seriously anyways. He could laugh at himself which is a wonderful quality to have.

CanwllCorfe · 04-04-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA

I hope you know that wasn't sarcasm whatsoever.

Also, if anyone wants to feel happy, go here:

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Feelsgoodman. Someday we will be out of this goddamn thing, but until then, it's a shitty situation.

RVCA · 04-04-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe

I hope you know that wasn't sarcasm whatsoever.

Also, if anyone wants to feel happy, go here:

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Feelsgoodman. Someday we will be out of this goddamn thing, but until then, it's a ****ty situation.

Why do you think he was a good speaker? As Jack Pat pointed out, he was good at laughing at himself. But that's it. As far as I could tell, he was an atrocious speaker, and he said a lot of dumb things. Obama, on the other hand, is a fantastic speaker.

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04-04-2011, 08:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
CanwllCorfe Quiet Man in the Corner Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pocono Mountains Posts: 2,480	We don't have money. If the economy gets better, I'll be happy. I could care less who's president. I'm indifferent towards him. He's definitely a good speaker. Almost as good as Bush. __________________ Your eyes were never yet let in to see the majesty and riches of the mind, but dwell in darkness; for your God is blind.

04-04-2011, 08:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	Good points. Both of you.

04-04-2011, 08:33 PM	#18 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	But Gunnels, the Republican party isn't even happy with it now. Do you really think it makes a difference if the bill is stronger or weaker? To them, fighting any healthcare bill gives them more credit with the Tea Party and more recognition from other Republicans. In their eyes, anything passed by Obama is "socialism." EDIT: Bush never took himself all that seriously anyways. He could laugh at himself which is a wonderful quality to have.