Suicide Note

~~[MERIT]~~ · 03-28-2011, 08:43 PM

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This 35-year-old Gentleman from Somerville, Massachusetts may look like a self-confident practical manager.

However, this Jewish-American holder of a degree in psychology was an intellectual who wrote 1,904 or 1,905 pages of wisdom about freedom, nihilism, transhumanism, sociobiology, God, Judaism, Jewish symbols, Jewish IQ, Anglo-Saxon history, referring to Socrates, Newton, Einstein, Pinker, Dawkins, Mansfield, Dershowitz, and many others, before he shot himself on the top step of Harvard's Memorial Church - in front of dozens of people - on Saturday.

The Reference Frame: Mitchell Heisman: suicide note, 1905 pages

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Mitchell Heisman - Suicide Note

Has anyone else heard about this story or read his epitaph? His suicide note was a novel consisting of over 1,900 page. Some have called it the single greatest philosophical work of the 21st century. I recommend downloading it. While his ideas may seem far from the norm at times, he raises some very interesting points and thoughts about life, death, religion, society, and basically everything else that we deal with during our lifetimes.

iron9567 · 03-28-2011, 08:55 PM

I haven't heard anything about this I'll give his novel a read though. any clue on why he committed suicide though?

~~[MERIT]~~ · 03-28-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by iron9567

I haven't heard anything about this I'll give his novel a read though. any clue on why he committed suicide though?

He was testing his theory on nihilism. He believed that overcoming the fear of death would prove that death should not be feared, and that death is equally as important as life.

ThePhanastasio · 03-28-2011, 09:15 PM

Very interesting. I'd not heard of this, which apparently proves a great deal of the forward of his book regarding free speech.

I've downloaded it, and will be reading it for the next little while.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 03-28-2011, 09:22 PM

I'm trying to make a dent in it, but it is terribly long. So far, it is worth the time though. It's sad that he felt the need to take his own life in order to get his thoughts expressed.

cardboard adolescent · 03-28-2011, 09:24 PM

He managed to pursue his rationalism and egotism so rigorously that it led him to believe that killing himself in front of dozens of people would be a good idea. One small finger-motion for man, one giant leap backward for mankind.

iron9567 · 03-28-2011, 09:36 PM

It's sad he had to take the step he did to get his point across.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 03-28-2011, 09:52 PM

This is from the last chapter:

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The student Doko came to a Zen master, and said: “I am
seeking the truth. In what state of mind should I train
myself, so as to find it?”
Said the master, “There is no mind, so you cannot put it in
any state. There is no truth, so you cannot train yourself for
it.”
“If there is no mind to train, and no truth to find, why do
you have these monks gather before you every day to study
Zen and train themselves for this study?”
“But I haven’t an inch of room here,” said the master, “so
how could the monks gather? I have no tongue, so how
could I call them together or teach them?”
“Oh, how can you lie like this?” asked Doko.
“But if I have no tongue to talk to others, how can I lie to
you?” asked the master.
Then Doko said sadly, “I cannot follow you. I cannot
understand you.”
“I cannot understand myself,” said the master.

cardboard adolescent · 03-28-2011, 10:12 PM

<3

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-01-2011, 07:50 PM

I'm definitely keen to read this. Add it to the list of library books I have to read too.

I think it's incredible what he did.

03-28-2011, 08:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
iron9567 musicbanter peeping tom Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 74	I haven't heard anything about this I'll give his novel a read though. any clue on why he committed suicide though? __________________ thanks The iron man I don't want to change the world. I just want to make the world colder then the day I came.

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ThePhanastasio Killed Laura Palmer Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ashland, KY Posts: 1,679	Very interesting. I'd not heard of this, which apparently proves a great deal of the forward of his book regarding free speech. I've downloaded it, and will be reading it for the next little while. __________________ Phish: Studio Discography Reviewed 100 Albums I Heartily Recommend My last.fm It's a hand-me-down, the thoughts are broken Perhaps they're better left unsung

03-28-2011, 09:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
iron9567 musicbanter peeping tom Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 74	It's sad he had to take the step he did to get his point across. __________________ thanks The iron man I don't want to change the world. I just want to make the world colder then the day I came.

04-01-2011, 07:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	I'm definitely keen to read this. Add it to the list of library books I have to read too. I think it's incredible what he did. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

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~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	I'm trying to make a dent in it, but it is terribly long. So far, it is worth the time though. It's sad that he felt the need to take his own life in order to get his thoughts expressed.

03-28-2011, 09:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	He managed to pursue his rationalism and egotism so rigorously that it led him to believe that killing himself in front of dozens of people would be a good idea. One small finger-motion for man, one giant leap backward for mankind.

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cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	<3