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Urban Hat€monger ? 03-20-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1021331)
Actually it is not, but you continue to think it is.

Maybe you should explain yourself better then.
All I've seen you do in this thread is say 'it's about oil' and then go on to personally attack people or ignore any questions put to you by whoever disagrees with you.

Buzzov*en 03-20-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1021338)
Maybe you should explain yourself better then.
All I've seen you do in this thread is say 'it's about oil' and then go on to personally attack people or ignore any questions put to you by whoever disagrees with you.

OR maybe it is a lack of reading comprehension skills.

Guess you skimmed through because I brought up Darfur as well.

If this was not about oil, but about being humanitarians the US would intervene in Darfur which the government does not do since it does not benefit them. Clearly the US government does not care about people other than its own unless it financially benefits us over time.

someonecompletelyrandom 03-20-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1021348)
OR maybe it is a lack of reading comprehension skills.

Guess you skimmed through because I brought up Darfur as well.

If this was not about oil, but about being humanitarians the US would intervene in Darfur which the government does not do since it does not benefit them. Clearly the US government does not care about people other than its own unless it financially benefits us over time.

It irks me that people refer to countries as if they're people. Of course "The U.S." isn't going to play hero just for the sake of being noble. The country is run by hundreds of people, each with their own motives and desires yet sharing one common interest, "What's good for us?" How could it be any other way?

Buzzov*en 03-20-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 1021349)
It irks me that people refer to countries as if they're people. Of course "The U.S." isn't going to play hero just for the sake of being noble. The country is run by hundreds of people, each with their own motives and desires yet sharing one common interest, "What's good for us?" How could it be any other way?

One motive for one desire. Money. The root of most problems.

The Monkey 03-21-2011 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1021321)
Please never talk about intellect and spell incorrectly because it just makes you look like an ass.
They put someone in power who they can trust they will benefit.

They could trust Gaddafi, he always sold oil to the west. So why would they destroy that reliable source of oil if their motives are, as you say, "oil"? If that was the case they should've helped Gaddafi destroy the rebels. I'm not suggesting that the West has purely humanitarian goals with all this, I think it's also very much a deal of improving one's status. Sarkozy in particular seems very eager to make France a big player in international relations.

TockTockTock 03-21-2011 05:40 AM

Just read through the whole bloody thing. It seems to me that every time Buzzov*en joins a debate the level of civility drops dramatically.

The Virgin 03-21-2011 07:06 AM

i'm sorry i don't understand the ceausescu word. i thought he's a person who'll replace Gaddafi.

The Batlord 03-21-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey (Post 1021551)
They could trust Gaddafi, he always sold oil to the west. So why would they destroy that reliable source of oil if their motives are, as you say, "oil"? If that was the case they should've helped Gaddafi destroy the rebels. I'm not suggesting that the West has purely humanitarian goals with all this, I think it's also very much a deal of improving one's status. Sarkozy in particular seems very eager to make France a big player in international relations.

My guess would be that siding with a murdering thug like Gaddafi would be political suicide, while siding with the rebels at least might give the US, France, Britain, etc some influence in who eventually prevails.

Janszoon 03-21-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Virgin (Post 1021663)
i'm sorry i don't understand the ceausescu word. i thought he's a person who'll replace Gaddafi.

:laughing:

It's a reference to Nicolae Ceaușescu, the brutal ruler of Romania who was publicly executed in 1989. The title of this thread is basically asking if the Libyan people are going to capture and execute Gaddafi or not.

Buzzov*en 03-22-2011 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1021572)
Just read through the whole bloody thing. It seems to me that every time Buzzov*en joins a debate the level of civility drops dramatically.

You think this will help it remain civil if you think I am the cause of it?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1021827)
My guess would be that siding with a murdering thug like Gaddafi would be political suicide, while siding with the rebels at least might give the US, France, Britain, etc some influence in who eventually prevails.

Pretty much.


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